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Last edited by flamarlins93; 12-31-2018, 08:37 PM.
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Originally posted by lou View PostI disagree there are only a few chips to play around (by 2021), but signing someone next year is a year early to get ready for 2021. I'm not saying that's going to happen, I was just giving an example of how you can overspend and it means nothing to their flexibility. If they are relying on the draft only, it's easily 2023 absent major breakouts. I cannot fathom spending a billion dollars and throwing in the towel for 2018-2022. These guys are still running a business and they know they have to create a fan base even if there is debt. It's just not going to happen where the only free agents they spend money on for 5 years are Cameron Maybin types.
2019 is going to be a pure loss and another fight to not lose 100. Who cares what they do with free agents, there is no crawling out of this hole. This year is just like last year, acquire as much talent as possible so you can have a very cheap club controlled team for years and years, and spend when you're ready, which is basically 2020 or 2021 depending on how things go.
I don't think it's unreasonable to think they have a $100 million payroll in 2021. They basically did that in 2018.Last edited by flamarlins93; 12-31-2018, 08:36 PM.
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Originally posted by flamarlins93 View PostSince you are the only person who claims to know what the actual plan is lets hear it. I do think that most Marlins fans expected last year and this year to be horrible. Heck for the most part this is a minor league squad playing in the majors.
Be shit till 2020/21 then spend to supplement the roster where needed(#1 Vet SP/SS/C/RP) with FA
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Originally posted by fauowls44 View PostNow that Christmas and New Year's are behind us, hopefully the JT situation can get settled soon. It's gone on long enough.
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Originally posted by fauowls44 View PostNow that Christmas and New Year's are behind us, hopefully the JT situation can get settled soon. It's gone on long enough.
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In the old days, details of trade offers were often reported. Nowadays, teams do a better job of keeping negotiations quiet - even with all the social media out there. I don't think the Marlins are in a rush to do anything. The prospect of a Realmuto trade is the one and only story that keeps the team in the news.
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Originally posted by Lee Stone View PostIn the old days, details of trade offers were often reported. Nowadays, teams do a better job of keeping negotiations quiet - even with all the social media out there. I don't think the Marlins are in a rush to do anything. The prospect of a Realmuto trade is the one and only story that keeps the team in the news.
The only chance JT gets done fast is if a team like LAD/Houston/TB give Miami exactly what they want(which is still ALOT)
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Marlins claimed Rosell Herrera, who I didn't know existed prior to this - https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.asp...11&position=OF
Looks like a strong candidate to be the backup CF/25th man. Played a little 2B competently (defensively) last year. He was a good prospect in 2013?
Someone will have to be DFA'd I believe. Shouldn't be an issue with Galloway still hanging on.
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He actually split hits and had a .650 OPS against RHP last year? I mean, this is theoretically a big improvement over Ortega/Sierra/Shuck, who somehow got 450 PA and rewarded them with -2.8 WAR. 2019 baby! When a AAA replacement bench player can net you 3 wins!
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Color me flush with excitement. Our opening day OF might be Austin Dean in left, Herrera in CF and Harold Ramirez in RF.
I keep reading that Tucker and Verdugo types are what the Marlins are after but don't want to believe it. Getting one sort of good player accomplishes nothing for a team that needs help everywhere. Who cares if a prospect is rated top twenty or not? All that means is you get less with him. You take four like Rolando Hernandez, Brandon Lowe, Brujan, and McClanahan from Tampa Bay and suddenly the future looks a helluva lot better.Last edited by Lee Stone; 01-02-2019, 06:04 PM.
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Originally posted by Lee Stone View PostColor me flush with excitement. Our opening day OF might be Austin Dean in left, Herrera in CF and Harold Ramirez in RF.
I keep reading that Tucker and Verdugo types are what the Marlins are after but don't want to believe it. Getting one sort of good player accomplishes nothing for a team that needs help everywhere. Who cares if a prospect is rated top twenty or not? All that means is you get less with him. You take four like Rolando Hernandez, Brandon Lowe, Brujan, and McClanahan from Tampa Bay and suddenly the future looks a helluva lot better.
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Originally posted by lou View PostMarlins claimed Rosell Herrera, who I didn't know existed prior to this - https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.asp...11&position=OF
Looks like a strong candidate to be the backup CF/25th man. Played a little 2B competently (defensively) last year. He was a good prospect in 2013?
Someone will have to be DFA'd I believe. Shouldn't be an issue with Galloway still hanging on.
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He actually split hits and had a .650 OPS against RHP last year? I mean, this is theoretically a big improvement over Ortega/Sierra/Shuck, who somehow got 450 PA and rewarded them with -2.8 WAR. 2019 baby! When a AAA replacement bench player can net you 3 wins!
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ill give you a million dollars if even 2 out of 3 of those guys are in the starting lineup opening day barring like 7 injuries of guys ahead of them
There you go! Sounds like fun. Ramirez hit .320/.365/.836 in AA last season. Dean went .345/.410/.922 in AA/AAA. Who are the seven that are barring the way for these two? Sure as hell wouldn't be Brinson, Harrison, Sierra or Galloway. I'm not saying Dean and Ramirez are rock stars - this is an indictment against the rest of the roster and farm.
Mish odds on Realmuto acquisition:
Braves 35%
Rays 15%
Yankees 15%
Padres 10%
Reds 10%
Astros 10%
Field 5%
You have to like "the field" here, which would include the Indians and Rockies, the teams who could use him most.Last edited by Lee Stone; 01-03-2019, 08:38 AM.
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Originally posted by lou View PostMarlins claimed Rosell Herrera, who I didn't know existed prior to this - https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.asp...11&position=OF
Looks like a strong candidate to be the backup CF/25th man. Played a little 2B competently (defensively) last year. He was a good prospect in 2013?
Someone will have to be DFA'd I believe. Shouldn't be an issue with Galloway still hanging on.
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He actually split hits and had a .650 OPS against RHP last year? I mean, this is theoretically a big improvement over Ortega/Sierra/Shuck, who somehow got 450 PA and rewarded them with -2.8 WAR. 2019 baby! When a AAA replacement bench player can net you 3 wins!
As for Herrera, he's only 25 and has been good in AAA the last 2 seasons. He can play multiple spots and like Lou said, he wasn't a complete disaster with the bat in his first taste of the Majors (against RHP anyway). As a free utility guy, he's worth a shot.
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