2018/2019 Offseason Thread

[fish16]

He’s not confusing anyone, he’s once again overrating minor league stats by ignoring home stadium and age and looking at nothing into the context of good statistics

[fish16]

https://twitter.com/all_right_Miami/...83896988315650

This guy did a twitter thread of the baseball america podcast on the marlins. Has some interesting tidbits and a lot of things i agree with that is the reason for my optimism towards the rebuild.

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Danny


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•Marlins were 30th in farms last year; agreed with decision to rebuild

•”Marlins system has gotten a lot better”

•”They’re on the rise...finally have hope as a franchise again”

•At MLB Level: stated that Anderson, Lopez and Richards were positives

•Very high on Anderson

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• “2021” as the next year where Miami should be competitive again

•Eluded that for those that believed the rebuild wasn’t necessary, the Marlins haven’t had a winning season since 2009

•Stated that Top 4 prospects are a different tier from rest (VVM, Sandy, Monte, Neidert)

Danny


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On Victor Victor Mesa

•Victor Robles comp
•Potential 5-Tool Big Leaguer
•Projected #2 hitter
•Room for sneaky power with proper training
•Projected quick timeline moving forward

Danny


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On Sandy Alcántara

•“My first line is....it’s WOW stuff”
•Front of the line starter; at least a #2 or #3 with a safe floor of dominant reliever

Stated that at least both of Victor Victor Mesa and Alcántara will be in the 2019 Top 100

*cough* Pipeline is lost *cough*

Danny


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On Monte Harrison

•Could make argument for being top Miami prospect
•Upside is well above other prospects, but highly volatile
•Interesting: after his strike out struggles, HE went to MIAMI and asked them how to fix it. Lower leg kick was part of solution

Danny


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On Nick Neidert

•Confident he hits his ceiling of mid-rotation arm
•Can see him in Miami this upcoming season

Danny


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On Connor Scott

•”A raw collection of all tools”
•Kyle Tucker comp
•Plus runner, who can stick in CF, but his height may move him to corner spot

Danny


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On Jorge Guzman and Edward Cabrera

•Both have high octane and high ceilings, but carry significant “reliever risk”
•If they click with control, top to mid rotation

Danny


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On Isan Diaz

•”Solid all around player”
•Could project as .250 with 20 HR and Plus defense at 2nd
•Confidence that he will be Miami everyday starter by no later than 2020 Opening Day

Danny


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On Trevor Rogerz

•Showed flashes of “Oh yeah, that’s a Top 10 draft prospect”
•“Numbers aren’t good, but there’s something there”
•Gets up to 96MPH
•”The stuff is there, he just needs to pitch more”

Danny


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On Braxton Garrett

•Highly regarded , has good stuff

Stated that Rogers and Garrett are “Aces in the hole for Miami”

Danny


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When asked about who sticks out as the best “third piece” from the rebuild.

The answer was Jordan Yamamoto.

Danny


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Yelich Trade:

“The Marlins weren’t winning with Yelich, he wasn’t going to win MVP in Miami. It’s unfair to compare Yelich to these four guys. The talent is there....to have guys that will impact the major league team for a long time”

Said he likes the pieces they got back.

Danny


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When asked about sleepers in the farm system:

Jordan Halloway

“Has all the stuff of at least mid rotation, if it ever clicks...who knows”

Agreed with just about everything except for Halloway. This guy has to have unreal stuff for this many people to be so high on him while never having been anything.

[lou]

There is a lot of encouraging news there

[Lee Stone]

Lee, I'm legitimately curious about what you see in JD Davis that makes you think he's going to be the best hitter on the Mets or would be on the Marlins.

Pull up Fresno (AAA) stats for last season. Tyler White, JD Davis and Kyle Tucker all played there together. All three performed nearly identically. Tucker is entering his age 22 season. Davis 26 and White 28. Tucker is lauded for his numbers because they are great and he's young. White and Davis numbers were great for a hitter of any age. Now, White hit pretty well from the get-go with the Astros last season. Tucker and Davis didn't hit for shit in small samples. In Davis and Tucker you had giant OPS numbers at Fresno. Getting Tucker would cost JT Realmuto. Davis was a relative freebee. Does the age differential mean a lot? Pure speculation, but both of them have similar ability to produce at this time.

[fish16]

Pull up Fresno (AAA) stats for last season. Tyler White, JD Davis and Kyle Tucker all played there together. All three performed nearly identically. Tucker is entering his age 22 season. Davis 26 and White 28. Tucker is lauded for his numbers because they are great and he's young. White and Davis numbers were great for a hitter of any age. Now, White hit pretty well from the get-go with the Astros last season. Tucker and Davis didn't hit for shit in small samples. In Davis and Tucker you had giant OPS numbers at Fresno. Getting Tucker would cost JT Realmuto. Davis was a relative freebee. Does the age differential mean a lot? Pure speculation, but both of them have similar ability to produce at this time.

you're absolutely clueless as to how to evaluate minor league talent. How many times do you have to be beaten over the head with examples of why age and context for minor league statistics matters significantly before you stop just projecting minor league stats as if they are by itself predictive of major league potential?

[fish16]

Jon jay close to signing with White Sox likely in order to try and convince Machado to play there with 2 of his best friends so that ends Jon Jay talk as the FA OF of choice this year.

[fauowls44]

Jon jay close to signing with White Sox likely in order to try and convince Machado to play there with 2 of his best friends so that ends Jon Jay talk as the FA OF of choice this year.

OK. Still plenty of other (and probably better) OF options available. I'd love for the Marlins to take a chance on signing Avisail Garcia on a 1 year deal. Carlos Gomez and Carlos Gonzalez also both make a lot of sense. And of course, Bryce Harper...

[tjfla]

Jon jay close to signing with White Sox likely in order to try and convince Machado to play there with 2 of his best friends so that ends Jon Jay talk as the FA OF of choice this year.

CWS stealing all of Miami's guys. Can't wait to see who they get in trades for him and the RP at the Deadline.

Miami isn't in a rush about FA more into dealing with JT

[fish16]

CWS stealing all of Miami's guys. Can't wait to see who they get in trades for him and the RP at the Deadline.

Miami isn't in a rush about FA more into dealing with JT

I wouldn’t sign anyone to 1 year deals until February or much closer to spring training like we did for Maybin last year. Makes no sense to do it right now given the way how the free agent market has developed the last few years

[tjfla]

I wouldn’t sign anyone to 1 year deals until February or much closer to spring training like we did for Maybin last year. Makes no sense to do it right now given the way how the free agent market has developed the last few years

Exactly just saying they are getting all the guys Miami wanted. I would wait till last week of Feb right before ST opens. Sign 1 RP to ML deal and offer the rest Minors with invite. Sign 1 LHB to ML deal and few other bats to Minors with invite.

This year means NOTHING they just want vets to eat innings/Ab's and hopefully trade them at deadline

They are still trying to get a Houston deal which means Tucker would get the LHB job anyways

[Lee Stone]

Craig Mish: Sources indicate Braves and Marlins have talked again about Realmuto. Braves appear to be waiting Marlins out. Rays remain a possibility.

If it's Atlanta, no Austin Riley please. Anderson, Bryse Wilson, Contreras and Waters

[lou]

Craig Mish: Sources indicate Braves and Marlins have talked again about Realmuto. Braves appear to be waiting Marlins out. Rays remain a possibility.

If it's Atlanta, no Austin Riley please. Anderson, Bryse Wilson, Contreras and Waters

Too much value Lee.

Change Waters to Allard/Wentz/Muller and that works. Maybe chuck in Conley and take back a FV40 too.

[Lee Stone]

or how about taking Flowers instead of Contreras?

[fish16]

Craig Mish: Sources indicate Braves and Marlins have talked again about Realmuto. Braves appear to be waiting Marlins out. Rays remain a possibility.

If it's Atlanta, no Austin Riley please. Anderson, Bryse Wilson, Contreras and Waters

Of course youd prefer some other 26 year old non prospect like JD davis but say no to austin riley. the guy is one of the best 3b prospects in baseball and is MLB ready.

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Mish said last week that we were asking for Riley, Anderson, and then a 3rd prospect.

[Lee Stone]

We already have Austin Dean (both Austins had similar ab in same league last year) and don't need a 3B. It's where Anderson needs to be.