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  • Kahlil Watson is not injured but not playing this past week either. I'd think there would be some press analysis surrounding a top draft pick's absence, particularly if it is a disciplinary thing.

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    • Originally posted by Lee Stone View Post
      Kahlil Watson is not injured but not playing this past week either. I'd think there would be some press analysis surrounding a top draft pick's absence, particularly if it is a disciplinary thing.
      "Marlins top prospect Kahlil Watson remains out of the Jupiter lineup due to disciplinary reasons. He’s been out a week, and it could extend into next week as well, per sources. Not clear on exact timetable." - Craig Mish

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      • Originally posted by Nick View Post

        "Marlins top prospect Kahlil Watson remains out of the Jupiter lineup due to disciplinary reasons. He’s been out a week, and it could extend into next week as well, per sources. Not clear on exact timetable." - Craig Mish
        Hope it’s just another case of the team punishing him early for not running something out. He was pulled from a game early if I remember correctly so hope it’s something minor like that to teach him a lesson. If it is, it’s a good lesson to learn early. As a high school guy he’s probably never struggled before or not been the best player on the field in his life.

        but from an organizational standpoint, we’re about as bad at finding young hitters as we are good at finding young pitchers

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        • Jazz voted all star starting 2b. Well deserved. Not sure how it would have worked but given Albies is out for a while, would he have become the winner even if albies got more votes or does it become the managers choice then?

          you rarely see a trade like jazz for Gallen be so beneficial to both teams.

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          • It’s amazing how much better the Mets approach offensively is compared to the Marlins.

            Also, lets just sign Brandon Nimmo in the offseason.

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            • Originally posted by Erick View Post
              It’s amazing how much better the Mets approach offensively is compared to the Marlins.

              Also, lets just sign Brandon Nimmo in the offseason.
              love nimmo, he's the younger version of marte in a way, but... should he even get on the open market, which is what it would take for us to get him,... what are the chances we outbid the mets who have shown a willingness to spend recklessly? And what are the chances, even if the mets let him go, that we don't get outbid by some other big market team? those type of guys don't seem to hit the market before being re-signed. If they do, how many teams are in on him? A few injuries, but he will be just 30 next opening day. Barring a bad injury, he's getting 5 years, too many million. It shouldn't be too many million if we had a capable owner, but realistically, it is.

              The worst part is that there are so many avenues to contention this offseason (should have been this year) in free agency. If we had an owner who, like the twins owner, bought for correa and spent some money (middle of the pack payroll and not even top 10) we would be an easy pick for a playoff spot next year without even making a trade because of the possibility of being able to spend in free agency. But this franchise can never be counted on to do that because they just cannot get past the ownership problem that hasn't changed even with new ownership. This team needs a deep-pocketed owner with a vision that is willing to spend some money up-front and isn't counting every dollar. In this market, if you produce a consistent winner, the fans will come out for you. IF you have an owner willing to spend money, that can happen over a few years with the investment in the team. But it wont happen without the investment in the team up front. This fanbase time and time again has shown that they wont come up without a consistently good product.

              Conforto, though off an injury, at 30, could be a smart value buy low play for 2 years.
              Last edited by fish16; 07-08-2022, 09:24 PM.

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              • Originally posted by fish16 View Post

                love nimmo, he's the younger version of marte in a way, but... should he even get on the open market, which is what it would take for us to get him,... what are the chances we outbid the mets who have shown a willingness to spend recklessly? And what are the chances, even if the mets let him go, that we don't get outbid by some other big market team? those type of guys don't seem to hit the market before being re-signed. If they do, how many teams are in on him? A few injuries, but he will be just 30 next opening day. Barring a bad injury, he's getting 5 years, too many million. It shouldn't be too many million if we had a capable owner, but realistically, it is.

                The worst part is that there are so many avenues to contention this offseason (should have been this year) in free agency. If we had an owner who, like the twins owner, bought for correa and spent some money (middle of the pack payroll and not even top 10) we would be an easy pick for a playoff spot next year without even making a trade because of the possibility of being able to spend in free agency. But this franchise can never be counted on to do that because they just cannot get past the ownership problem that hasn't changed even with new ownership. This team needs a deep-pocketed owner with a vision that is willing to spend some money up-front and isn't counting every dollar. In this market, if you produce a consistent winner, the fans will come out for you. IF you have an owner willing to spend money, that can happen over a few years with the investment in the team. But it wont happen without the investment in the team up front. This fanbase time and time again has shown that they wont come up without a consistently good product.

                Conforto, though off an injury, at 30, could be a smart value buy low play for 2 years.
                The Phillies would probably be another team going after Nimmo if they don’t trade for a CF’er at the deadline. Their CF situation might be worse than ours.

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                • It’s absolutely amazing how bad Jacob Stallings is. Like, Jorge Alfaro is a Hall of Famer by comparison and I didn’t like Jorge Alfaro either (by the way, Alfaro is actually doing well in SD lol).

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                  • There’s no way Nimmo is on the Marlins next year. It’s sad but true. No way Sherman shells out that much coin especially after the Garcia disaster thus far.

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                    • just a brutal way to lose yesterday. every game without sandy or pablo pitching that we can win is huge. Braxton garrett has given the team everything you could possibly hope for as a spot starter, you get 3.1 scoreless from the bullpen, and then you blow it in the 10th.

                      Bass sucked to start last year, but he needs to be the closer at this point. he's been tremendous and tanner scott cant be counted on to throw a strike.

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                      • BTW, Watson has been away from the team because he was at bat and the ump missed a check swing, so when he ended the at bat a few pitches later he mocked shooting the ump with his bat as the gun. so ya, super dumb and not great awareness
                        Last edited by fish16; 07-10-2022, 11:21 AM.

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                        • Stallings at the plate makes Jeff Mathis look like babe Ruth. It’s mid July and he’s got a .492 ops. His wrc as of the other day was 47, meaning he has been less than half as good as a major league average player. At what point does this guy just go away or at the very least lose his starting spot. It’s impossible to justify him as anything other than a guy to give fortes a rest when he needs it at this point

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                          • Fish on the farm on twitter posted a video of sixtos “bullpen.” Dude isn’t close to ready. He was throwing at maybe 50% and throwing 70

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                            • Wouldnt mind snagging Ian happ along with Robertson from the cubs at the deadline. No idea if he is available, but he can play good enough CF for his bat to be a major upgrade to the lineup, and he's under team control through next year.

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                              • new baseball america mid season top 100 out- Eury is 9, Max Meyer is 25, Cabrera is 56. Those are the only guys on the list. Not sure if there's been any change on the top 10 they have- but they have Eury, Meyer, Watson, Cabrera, Sixto, Eder, Burdick, Salas, Bleday, and Ian lewis.
                                Last edited by fish16; 07-11-2022, 12:40 PM.

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