Season Super Game Thread

[fish16]

One thing im thinking in regards to Van Slyke is that Schuck might have to be sent down soon for one of the guys coming back and that would mean he would need to be DFA'd after a short stint so they didnt want to risk Van Slyke being claimed after just a few days up here. thats the only thing i can think of.

[tjfla]

One thing im thinking in regards to Van Slyke is that Schuck might have to be sent down soon for one of the guys coming back and that would mean he would need to be DFA'd after a short stint so they didnt want to risk Van Slyke being claimed after just a few days up here. thats the only thing i can think of.

True but Tyler Cloyd is still on roster too. DFA him anytime

[fish16]

Yeah Cooper was hit in that 17 inning game against the Cubs. He appeared in the next 2 games, picking up 3 ABs. Then he hasn't been seen from since.

you're right, i didnt remember that. Maybe he reinjured it trying to rehab or something, but still, really fucking weird given all the other guys who arent following their own timetables.

[tjfla]

d'Arnuad is done for the year

[lou]

Gimenez could be a centerpiece. He is 19 in High A. Can stick at SS(Gold Glove quality too). Pretty much opposite of Kieboom. I would take a Gimenez/David Peterson package over Kieboom/Wil Crowe or Fedde. Washington have more depth however the question is would they trade it?

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp...tting/2018/ALL

When I say depth I mean Garcia or Antuna included. Both are what Gimenez was LY. Will Washington include either one in a deal? If not I see how bad the Mets want JT and squeeze them. They have stuff we would like just not high end

If mid June comes and the Mets are fighting for 1st but need a C I would call and offer JT/Taz with some cash for

SS Andres Gimenez
SP David Peterson
SP Chris Flexen OR Robert Gsellman
C Tomas Nido
1B Peter Alonso
Mid Level Prospect

ALL Ready by 2020
Tell them take it OR leave it and if the leave it we are going to do a deal with Washington

Peterson, Gimenez, Nido, Flexen, and a random FV40 arm for Realmuto and Prado, with eating some cash this season, probably works. Prado is an ideal bench guy for them for sure and he doesn't cost that much for NY money. Especially if the Marlins eat payroll this year.

Peterson and Gimenez would probably be legit starters for the Marlins, and the rest good depth pieces.

I don't care at all about Alonso. I only want up the middle positions and pitching in every trade.

[tjfla]

Peterson, Gimenez, Nido, Flexen, and a random FV40 arm for Realmuto and Prado, with eating some cash this season, probably works. Prado is an ideal bench guy for them for sure and he doesn't cost that much for NY money. Especially if the Marlins eat payroll this year.

Peterson and Gimenez would probably be legit starters for the Marlins, and the rest good depth pieces.

I don't care at all about Alonso. I only want up the middle positions and pitching in every trade.

Ya first 4 would have to be in the deal. I just put Alonso in because best bat and ready in 2020. Mets don't have many high end prospects but do have solid mid level guys like Marcus Molina,Justin Dunn

[rmc523]

I dont think he played, but he was supposedly day to day and they didnt even put him on the dl immediately. Youve got that, Straily was supposed to be just day to day, JT was supposed to be back in spring let alone still not close, Riddle was just supposed to be building arm strength back, and Wittgren was supposed to be ready quickly after the spring ended.

I read JT caught 3 innings and got 3 ABs, and is eyeing a return for next week.

[fish16]

Mets dont do it for me. We dont need more depth (i mean, yes we do, but specifically in a deal for JT), we need some more high end guys, even if its less players in a deal. We can get more mid tier prospects for some of the other guys on the team, I dont see us needing to do that for JT. Just keep shopping him around and say the best prospect to be included will get him, whether its Tucker, Soto, Rosario from the Mets, maybe the braves get involved, red sox, etc. Need a top end guy. We can keep building more depth through the draft and trades of guys like Bour, Castro, Barraclough, maybe Ziegler, etc.

[tjfla]

I read JT caught 3 innings and got 3 ABs, and is eyeing a return for next week.

Yep rehab in Jupiter next week. Straily goes tonight

[fish16]

I read JT caught 3 innings and got 3 ABs, and is eyeing a return for next week.

good to hear on him. Still weird how long he's been out if its just a "back contusion."

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not even a joke, but Chen also reportedly threw in an extended spring game so his yearly month this year until he goes down is probably gonna be may.

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Garrett Cooper says he has a partial tear of right wrist tendon sheath @Marlins will miss more than 2 months. Will not have surgery

Im assuming playing and getting 4 AB's after injuring the wrist initially probably didnt help this. but that also might be cooper finally getting an MLB shot and hiding how bad the injury was.

[tjfla]

Mets dont do it for me. We dont need more depth (i mean, yes we do, but specifically in a deal for JT), we need some more high end guys, even if its less players in a deal. We can get more mid tier prospects for some of the other guys on the team, I dont see us needing to do that for JT. Just keep shopping him around and say the best prospect to be included will get him, whether its Tucker, Soto, Rosario from the Mets, maybe the braves get involved, red sox, etc. Need a top end guy. We can keep building more depth through the draft and trades of guys like Bour, Castro, Barraclough, maybe Ziegler, etc.

If Gimenez has a good year he turns into a highend prospect. He actually is something we can really use-can stick at SS and is ready in 2020/21. No power but can hit

Peterson is a guy they were interested in LY and is the Marlins type of arm BIG LHP

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good to hear on him. Still weird how long he's been out if its just a "back contusion."

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not even a joke, but Chen also reportedly threw in an extended spring game so his yearly month this year until he goes down is probably gonna be may.

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Im assuming playing and getting 4 AB's after injuring the wrist initially probably didnt help this. but that also might be cooper finally getting an MLB shot and hiding how bad the injury was.

So Cooper will be back to play 1B by the time we trade Bour

[fish16]

If Gimenez has a good year he turns into a highend prospect. He actually is something we can really use-can stick at SS and is ready in 2020/21. No power but can hit

Peterson is a guy they were interested in LY and is the Marlins type of arm BIG LHP

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So Cooper will be back to play 1B by the time we trade Bour

I dont want someone who could turn into a high end prospect. I want someone who is a highend prospect. He is our last huge trade piece and we need to get a prospect who is already considered high end.

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JT is a premium catcher at a premium position under team control for 3 more years, he needs to get a high end prospect who is already considered high end, not one who people think could become one.

[tjfla]

What we need to do is hope Wieters messes his back up even more and bidding war!!

So your strategy is say

Washington-Juan Soto and Severino
NYM-Amed Rosario and Nido

or no deal?

[fish16]

What we need to do is hope Wieters messes his back up even more and bidding war!!

im surprised they released miguel montero and that we havent signed him or any of these other veteran catchers out there. Wallach is an embarassment and all these guys wouldnt get more than the minimum. Montero, Carlos Ruiz, etc.

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What we need to do is hope Wieters messes his back up even more and bidding war!!

So your strategy is say

Washington-Juan Soto and Severino
NYM-Amed Rosario and Nido

or no deal?

Doesnt have to be those 2 teams, not sure why youre limiting it to them when we have 3.5 months till the deadline. Lots of contenders have potential catcher needs at the deadline- Mets, Nats, Astros, Red Sox definitely might be interested and they have Groome, etc. Id need Soto or Kieboom + though if i deal with the nats and id need a legit big time prospect from the mets and they just dont have that, so id need Amed Rosario (though they likely wouldnt do that, but still, you dont need to deal JT and you can still give him a long term deal).

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I dont hate Gimenez, but he shouldnt be the best thing we get back for JT unless the deal is like 5 guys deep.

[tjfla]

im surprised they released miguel montero and that we havent signed him or any of these other veteran catchers out there. Wallach is an embarassment and all these guys wouldnt get more than the minimum. Montero, Carlos Ruiz, etc.

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Doesnt have to be those 2 teams, not sure why youre limiting it to them when we have 3.5 months till the deadline. Lots of contenders have potential catcher needs at the deadline- Mets, Nats, Astros, Red Sox definitely might be interested and they have Groome, etc. Id need Soto or Kieboom + though if i deal with the nats and id need a legit big time prospect from the mets and they just dont have that, so id need Amed Rosario (though they likely wouldnt do that, but still, you dont need to deal JT and you can still give him a long term deal).

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I dont hate Gimenez, but he shouldnt be the best thing we get back for JT unless the deal is like 5 guys deep.

Groome is terrible and #2 prospect is suspended for drugs.

Gimenez is Mets #1 prospect and I agree if he is centerpiece it better be 4/5 guys. Also Gimenez can stick at SS which bumps value up. I dont like the Mets system but its not a bad system and they have pieces we would like