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  • Can’t believe we have a scrub like Despaigne out there in a year like this with Guerrero, Garcia, and anybody else who probably has a future in the big leagues sitting in the bullpen.

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    • Originally posted by Erick View Post
      Can’t believe we have a scrub like Despaigne out there in a year like this with Guerrero, Garcia, and anybody else who probably has a future in the big leagues sitting in the bullpen.
      and if we tie the game Don will probably go with thepipi again

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      • i dont remember mattingly being this horrific at in game decision making. he hasnt been given a great roster but just ridiculous bullpen decisions nightly.

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        Fredi is as good of a 3rd base coach as he is manager.

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        • The one time in history Mattingly didn't pinch run for Bour. Lol

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          • Really Fredi? sending Bour?

            Their shortstop had the ball when he was a step past 3rd base and he sends him?

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            • Originally posted by ¿NICK? View Post
              The one time in history Mattingly didn't pinch run for Bour. Lol
              No one left to run. Should of just held Bour. But Fredi sucks at everything.

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              • i hate pinch running for your best players anyway. Having bour stay in there was the right move, having your slowest runner sent home when the short stop has the ball and your slowest runner has barely crossed 3rd is the issue there.

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                • I want to imagine Bour with the old collision rule he would’ve destroyed the catcher

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                  • Originally posted by gustavopim View Post
                    I want to imagine Bour with the old collision rule he would’ve destroyed the catcher
                    bour could absolutely kill someone but i dont even think that play was close enough to allow that to happen under the old rules. he was out by so much the catcher would have just caught the ball and run up and tagged him before he could murder the catcher.

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                    great play by castro there. i really dont think this team will be as bad as people think if we dont blow up the team far in advance of the trade deadline as far as the other veterans are concerned..

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                    • Originally posted by ¿NICK? View Post
                      The one time in history Mattingly didn't pinch run for Bour. Lol
                      I think the whole bench has been used except for Holaday who’s the backup catcher.

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                      • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                        bour could absolutely kill someone but i dont even think that play was close enough to allow that to happen under the old rules. he was out by so much the catcher would have just caught the ball and run up and tagged him before he could murder the catcher.

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                        great play by castro there. i really dont think this team will be as bad as people think if we dont blow up the team far in advance of the trade deadline as far as the other veterans are concerned..
                        You are probably right. I still would like to see that tho lol

                        I don't know why people think that we would be so bad this year. Castro and Maybin are turning into good assets.

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                        • Originally posted by gustavopim View Post
                          You are probably right. I still would like to see that tho lol

                          I don't know why people think that we would be so bad this year. Castro and Maybin are turning into good assets.
                          i dont think people understood how many veterans were left on the roster, specifically in the lineup. But even though Jeff Passan is an enormous marlins hater he said he quoted an exec as saying we would win 50 something games which is not only ridiculous but incredibly hard to do. When healthy our lineup isnt bad at all, we're just lacking a ton of power but still have positive WAR players 1-8 (maybe not Cooper since we dont know enough yet but i still think his bat is decent enough). Our rotation is a huge unknown but our bullpen is really good. We're closer to 70 wins IMO than we are 55. I think we end up somewhere between 65-70 which still sucks but isnt nearly as bad as people who love to shit on the marlins want to think we are.

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                          Im interested to see which catcher goes down when JT comes back. I think Holaday also sucks but it makes more sense to give him the backup job since JT will start 5 games or so every week and let Wallach go down and get everyday ABs in NOLA. Its pretty clear they dont view telis as a catcher.

                          Also, given Anderson's ability im interested to see what role prado has upon returning. He's played 2b and LF too in his career but dont know if he still has that ability given his age and the specific injury he's had, specifically as it comes to LF.

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                          • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                            i dont think people understood how many veterans were left on the roster, specifically in the lineup. But even though Jeff Passan is an enormous marlins hater he said he quoted an exec as saying we would win 50 something games which is not only ridiculous but incredibly hard to do. When healthy our lineup isnt bad at all, we're just lacking a ton of power but still have positive WAR players 1-8 (maybe not Cooper since we dont know enough yet but i still think his bat is decent enough). Our rotation is a huge unknown but our bullpen is really good. We're closer to 70 wins IMO than we are 55. I think we end up somewhere between 65-70 which still sucks but isnt nearly as bad as people who love to shit on the marlins want to think we are.
                            I'm the same boat 65-75 (you never know). Castro = Dee. Yelich is a little better than DD. Brinson we still have to see what he's going to do and Maybin/GC are okay. Our starting rotation sucks, but it still can be better than last year with Urena, Straily, Peters, Garcia + 1. Our bullpen is good. I would say even better than last year.

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                            • Originally posted by gustavopim View Post
                              I'm the same boat 65-75 (you never know). Castro = Dee. Yelich is a little better than DD. Brinson we still have to see what he's going to do and Maybin/GC are okay. Our starting rotation sucks, but it still can be better than last year with Urena, Straily, Peters, Garcia + 1. Our bullpen is good. I would say even better than last year.
                              I dont think Yelich is just a little better than DD i just think people underestimate how hard it is to be as bad as some people think we might be. Go look at those Astros teams that had those 3 straight horrific years and the worst team of all time in the tigers that 1 year. Those are teams that didnt have anywhere near the talent we have, and im not complementing how much talent our team has as much as im hoping people go look at those rosters and see how bad they were and how hard it is to be that bad.

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                              • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                                I dont think Yelich is just a little better than DD i just think people underestimate how hard it is to be as bad as some people think we might be. Go look at those Astros teams that had those 3 straight horrific years and the worst team of all time in the tigers that 1 year. Those are teams that didnt have anywhere near the talent we have, and im not complementing how much talent our team has as much as im hoping people go look at those rosters and see how bad they were and how hard it is to be that bad.
                                If DD can hit 15-20 and keep getting on base I'm okay with that. His D in the outfield sucks tho

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