Season Super Game Thread

[fauowls44]

I would rather keep Realmuto.

Agreed. However, if they do trade Realmuto to the Nationals and have to face him 19 times a year, they better make sure they get Robles AND Kieboom included in the deal at a minimum.

[fish16]

0 chance we will get both of them I would think. Its why i dont think the nats will get him unless they just decide to say fuck it because its Harpers last year

[Erick]

If we don’t get more for Realmuto than we did for Yelich at this point, I would be disappointed.

[Nick]

Robles and Kieboom or GTFO.

[tjfla]

Jon Heyman is saying the Nats are desperate, and may look to come back to the table on Realmuto. He said some people think they might be willing to include Robles this time around.

https://fancredsports.com/articles/j...-realmuto-incl

Only way they trade JT this season is if Robles/Soto/Tucker/Vlad Jr/Bo otherwise the "plan" is offer extension in Oct and if he says NO trade at Winter Meetings

Note about Kieboom is Washington has offered him before but Marlins weren't interested in what else was in the offer. They like him but not enough to be him and filler-they will take Robles and filler

VERY VERY low we get Robles AND Kieboom but could see Robles/Severino or Read and low level arm or 2. All up to Washington

If they do wait till the Winter Meetings the deal would like be like Yelich's. Multiple "solid" prospects in a package but no Top 10 in baseball

[Namaste]

If they do wait till the Winter Meetings the deal would like be like Yelich's. Multiple "solid" prospects in a package but no Top 10 in baseball

Lol.

I’m not laughing at you but the thought of this is ridiculous.

[sports24/7]

Ideally you keep JT, but if you don’t think he’s going to sign, and Robles is offered, you need to take that deal. He could very easily be a star. I would not do it for Keiboom, though, despite the nice year he’s putting together. He should be a fine middle infielder, but probably not a star. And you should only be returning a potential star if you’re moving the best player at a premier position.

[tjfla]

Lol.

I’m not laughing at you but the thought of this is ridiculous.

I am laughing at it too but at this point they have some power. If they offer him an extension and it gets out he said NO then teams will still offer nice packages but no chance it brings what they want

Still a chance they could get a Robles/Tucker at the deadline but at Winter Meetings its gonna be Kieboom/Alvarez as centerpieces(Still very solid to good packages but not great)

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Ideally you keep JT, but if you don’t think he’s going to sign, and Robles is offered, you need to take that deal. He could very easily be a star. I would not do it for Keiboom, though, despite the nice year he’s putting together. He should be a fine middle infielder, but probably not a star. And you should only be returning a potential star if you’re moving the best player at a premier position.

They do NOT think he will resign but arent rushing it and are going to make 1 big push(if he is still here). If they are offered Robles plus more it is going to be very hard to turn it down.

If they wait till the Winter Meetings,Houston could outbid Washington very easily and I would take a Houston deal. Better prospects AND get him out of the NL East

[fish16]

You don’t worry more about depth in a jt trade than you do about getting star quality back. You either try to re sign him or trade him for a great prospect. I’m fine now with waiting till the winter meetings as we will have more teams to choose from. If you trade him at the deadline you need a tucker, Robles, Whitley type prospect

[Lee Stone]

Robles and Kieboom or GTFO.

I truly believe that Robles, Kieboom, Read and Johnson could be sent Miami's way if Straily and Barraclough were added to Realmuto ... maybe Dietrich too. I don't think the Nats view Philly and Atlanta as uncatchable.

[rmc523]

I truly believe that Robles, Kieboom, Read and Johnson could be sent Miami's way if Straily and Barraclough were added to Realmuto ... maybe Dietrich too. I don't think the Nats view Philly and Atlanta as uncatchable.

Lol. Let's trade half the roster to DC, they'll give us anything!!

[Nick]

Outside of Robles and Kieboom there really isn't a lot to love in the Nationals system. I like Wil Crowe, but he's not a potential top of the rotation guy, he falls right in the category of Yamamoto, Neidert and Lopez, potential #3-#4 starters. I'd maybe listen if they insisted on including Luis Garcia instead of Kieboom, but Robles has got to be in the deal and Robles and Kieboom is a pretty fair price to make our division rival have to pay for the best Catcher in the league.

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I don't have much interest in any of the minor league catchers in the Nats organization either. If we're going to trade Realmuto, I'd look for his replacement elsewhere. With a Barraclough-Mejia deal making sense from our standpoint.

[lou]

If we don’t get more for Realmuto than we did for Yelich at this point, I would be disappointed.

So 2 1/2 years of Realmuto is worth more then 5 years of Yelich? I understand the desire to get a good package for JT, but come on man. JT is good, but even right now, is not worth what Yelich was preseason. This is unrealistic. I say this also in terms of the prospect ranks they got back, not the big bowl of MEH with what Brinson/Harrison/Diaz have done this year.

Ideally you keep JT, but if you don’t think he’s going to sign, and Robles is offered, you need to take that deal. He could very easily be a star. I would not do it for Keiboom, though, despite the nice year he’s putting together. He should be a fine middle infielder, but probably not a star. And you should only be returning a potential star if you’re moving the best player at a premier position.

I agree. Before the year I think Keiboom and a lot of friends would work, but JT has taken it to another level. Based on their system, and the emergence of Soto, it's Robles or bust as far as the Nationals go.

You don’t worry more about depth in a jt trade than you do about getting star quality back. You either try to re sign him or trade him for a great prospect. I’m fine now with waiting till the winter meetings as we will have more teams to choose from. If you trade him at the deadline you need a tucker, Robles, Whitley type prospect

Yep, they need to max out. They honestly have some depth. If we think about a hypothetical 2021 team:

C - ______, _______
1B - _______, Cooper/Nelson
2B - Diaz
SS - ________, Riddle
3B - Anderson
LF - Monte
CF - Brinson, Sierra/Miller/Lee
RF - ________

SP - ________, ________, Alcantara, Neidert, C. Smith
RHP - Guzman, Steckenrider, Wittgren, pick 2 Merandy/Gallen/Richards/Meyer/Yamamoto/Pablo/Whoever
LHP - Conley, pick 2 of Garcia/Quijada/Peters/O'Grady/Whoever

AAA/AA - Rogers, Garret, E. Cabrera, Devers, Scott, Osiris, Banfield, etc.

Of the above, you're into cheap arbitration years of let's say 6-8 guys, so the "penciled in" internal roster of maybe 18 guys is going to be under $35 million combined.

You have:

-Money for 2 major free agents
-Likely a centerpiece for JT
-Major IFA money in 18/19 for hopefully an elite guy ready in 2-3 years
-Top 5 draft pick 2019
-Possibility for good secondary pieces, maybe more, with Barraclough/Bour/Dietrich/Urena/Straily getting shipped out
-Break out possibilities of whoever in the minors, Devers, Dunand, Nelson, Yamamoto, etc.

I'm not saying you can count on everyone working out, of course that isn't going to happen, but strategically, they have gotten the "depth" part taken care of IMO. It's time to max out and fill out one those important blank lines with the Realmuto centerpiece (or sign him long term).

All-in on the 1 longterm top 40 or better prospect piece versus a lower quantity and upgraded 2nd and 3rd players in the deal.

I truly believe that Robles, Kieboom, Read and Johnson could be sent Miami's way if Straily and Barraclough were added to Realmuto ... maybe Dietrich too. I don't think the Nats view Philly and Atlanta as uncatchable.

Totally agree with you here bud. Depending on the team, the Marlins can attach a decent # 4 SP, a top notch back end RP, a good lefty bat, etc. and really put a cherry on top for a contender. All of them having multiple years of control so someone isn't that upset about losing "6 years of Robles" versus getting "2 1/2 years of Realmuto and 3 1/2 years of Barraclough."

I think this is what will happen end of the day when guys are inevitably traded.

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If we're going to trade Realmuto, I'd look for his replacement elsewhere. With a Barraclough-Mejia deal making sense from our standpoint.

I think we can stop this narrative as Cleveland isn't trading the best or second best catcher in the minors for a reliever?

McKenzie would be pretty epic in his own right. Throw in Dietrich and get that done. They have Kluber, Carrasco, Clevinger, and I guess Bieber is pretty good for years, and Bauer and Salazar have another 2 arbitration years. Maybe the Marlins can exploit that and get lucky turning a non-JT piece into a future # 3 SP on paper.

[Nick]

I'd prefer McKenzie to Mejia actually. I'm just saying Mejia is the type of catching prospect we should try to get back in these trades. Bringing in Severino or Read does nothing.

[Lee Stone]

I'd prefer McKenzie to Mejia actually. I'm just saying Mejia is the type of catching prospect we should try to get back in these trades. Bringing in Severino or Read does nothing.

You are under-rating Read - far better defensive C than Mejia, equal power (both played in AA Eastern League last season). Mejia hits for higher average, but Read not bad.