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Actually looked at Nimmo a little more. I sold him a little short yesterday.
He is absolutely terrible in CF. Slightly below average, but playable, in RF. This is really bringing down his overall defense.
However, he has been solid (slightly above average or neutral) in LF for his career. 5.5 UZR/150 in over 500 innings played.
I can completely live with him in LF as a floor neutral defender. That ticks him up. He's a very high floor guy with his BB rate and defense that doesn't kill you.
I am totally fine with Nimmo, Gimenez, Petersen, and Nido. They can have Wittgren too. Have to see what everyone else submits though to see if that's the winning bid.
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Originally posted by lou View PostActually looked at Nimmo a little more. I sold him a little short yesterday.
He is absolutely terrible in CF. Slightly below average, but playable, in RF. This is really bringing down his overall defense.
However, he has been solid (slightly above average or neutral) in LF for his career. 5.5 UZR/150 in over 500 innings played.
I can completely live with him in LF as a floor neutral defender. That ticks him up. He's a very high floor guy with his BB rate and defense that doesn't kill you.
I am totally fine with Nimmo, Gimenez, Petersen, and Nido. They can have Wittgren too. Have to see what everyone else submits though to see if that's the winning bid.
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Originally posted by sports24/7 View PostWould he be an option at 1B, or does that kill his value?
I think if you get him, he's a hold for 2019 and stick him in LF. See what happens with all 4 of them. Maybe someone doesn't work out, and you still have 3 outfielders for the longterm picture. It's not like Brinson and Monte are completely safe right now.
If you're overwhelmed in a trade, sure move him. That really goes for anyone though. They have no untouchables right now if they get more longterm pieces.
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Really, the only reason I kind of like the Mets deal is getting a longterm SS candidate. I can deal with another OF as the second guy in the deal, only if a major piece is a C/SS/#2 or better potential SP, and a third piece is a C/SS/1B/SP.
As the broken record of my posts are, the three biggest needs in my eyes are a longterm C, SS, and Ace SP, no order. Ideally you get two for Realmuto, but if the deals don't work out with Atlanta/Houston/Dodgers/etc., at least you get the SS with the Mets.
Nimmo/Conforto and Petersen/Alonso aren't chump throw in players. All of them will be useful.
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Originally posted by lou View PostReally, the only reason I kind of like the Mets deal is getting a longterm SS candidate. I can deal with another OF as the second guy in the deal, only if a major piece is a C/SS/#2 or better potential SP, and a third piece is a C/SS/1B/SP.
As the broken record of my posts are, the three biggest needs in my eyes are a longterm C, SS, and Ace SP, no order. Ideally you get two for Realmuto, but if the deals don't work out with Atlanta/Houston/Dodgers/etc., at least you get the SS with the Mets.
Nimmo/Conforto and Petersen/Alonso aren't chump throw in players. All of them will be useful.
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Originally posted by Namaste View PostI put the true odds of Brinson, Harrison and VVM all becoming above replacement level everyday outfielders at 12-1
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Originally posted by Namaste View PostI put the true odds of Brinson, Harrison and VVM all becoming above replacement level everyday outfielders at 12-1
Maybe he is nothing which would be disappointing, but get him hitting even .230, with a few more walks, above average defense, and legitimate speed on the basepaths, and that's a solid starter. He may never be a star, but if he's jacking 25-30 bombs hitting 7th, has an OBP over .300, and plays good defense, that's definitely a longterm starter on club controlled prices.
I'm interested in watching him in 2018, but could lose interest fast with another 250 PA of garbage.
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Originally posted by lou View PostReally, the only reason I kind of like the Mets deal is getting a longterm SS candidate. I can deal with another OF as the second guy in the deal, only if a major piece is a C/SS/#2 or better potential SP, and a third piece is a C/SS/1B/SP.
As the broken record of my posts are, the three biggest needs in my eyes are a longterm C, SS, and Ace SP, no order. Ideally you get two for Realmuto, but if the deals don't work out with Atlanta/Houston/Dodgers/etc., at least you get the SS with the Mets.
Nimmo/Conforto and Petersen/Alonso aren't chump throw in players. All of them will be useful.
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Originally posted by sports24/7 View PostThat's why the deal I'd most like to see happen is with Colorado, with Brendan Rodgers as the centerpiece.
From his scouting report: When Rodgers was in high school, scouts debated whether he was a long-term shortstop. The consensus now is that while he doesn't have the quickness and range teams typically desire there, his arm strength and instincts allow him to get the job done at short. He could be a solid defender at second or third base, though Nolan Arenado blocks him at the hot corner in Colorado.
I do like Colorado as a trade partner. Tyler Nevin was one of the best looking hitters in the AFL. Rodgers would be great.Last edited by Lee Stone; 12-07-2018, 12:56 PM.
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Originally posted by lou View PostReally, the only reason I kind of like the Mets deal is getting a longterm SS candidate. I can deal with another OF as the second guy in the deal, only if a major piece is a C/SS/#2 or better potential SP, and a third piece is a C/SS/1B/SP.
As the broken record of my posts are, the three biggest needs in my eyes are a longterm C, SS, and Ace SP, no order. Ideally you get two for Realmuto, but if the deals don't work out with Atlanta/Houston/Dodgers/etc., at least you get the SS with the Mets.
Nimmo/Conforto and Petersen/Alonso aren't chump throw in players. All of them will be useful.
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Originally posted by Lee Stone View PostProblem with that is Rodger's lack of mobility needed to stay at SS. His hitting would still be a plus at 2B. 3B not so much.
From his scouting report: When Rodgers was in high school, scouts debated whether he was a long-term shortstop. The consensus now is that while he doesn't have the quickness and range teams typically desire there, his arm strength and instincts allow him to get the job done at short. He could be a solid defender at second or third base, though Nolan Arenado blocks him at the hot corner in Colorado.
I do like Colorado as a trade partner. Tyler Nevin was one of the best looking hitters in the AFL. Rodgers would be great.
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