2018/2019 Offseason Thread

[fauowls44]

Revised

ML-Urena/Chen/Straily/Pablo/Richards/Smith
AAA-Sandy/Yamamoto/Merandy/Elieser/Neidert/Gallen
AA-Guzman/Sixto/Beggs/Dugger/Poteet/Mills/Puckett
Hi A-Rogers/Garrett/Cabrera/Holloway/Braley/Stewart/Castano
Lo A-Vallimont/Guerrero/Roberson/Mejia/Culbertson/Howe
Rookie-Matt Givin(TJ)/Dakota Bennett/Palacios and other DSL guys

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He has to throw a certain # of innings the next 2 years-NO WAY in hell it happens. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he is traded for a expensive but non performing bat. Chen is 22 million for 2020 and then option-likely trade him for guy who is signed till 2021 who could play 1B

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Have offers out to a few. Bud Smith is name to watch but they like Adam Warren/Nick Vincent/AJ

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The kid they got isn't half bad. He is older but changed his delivery LY and looked solid(control is shaky). Milbrath is 6'6 throws sidearm at 95 and has a groundball rate at 70%

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They got some cash to play with so expect 1 or 2 RP/OF/maybe Martin Maldonado signings over next few days

JT trade saved 5.3 Million

Definitely need at least 1 RP.

I would be in favor of signing Maldonado just so we don't have to carry Wallach or Holaday on the roster all year again.

I still would like to sign a starting OF. I would like to leave BA at 3rd (can't count on Prado...I'd honestly consider just releasing him and eating the money) and have Grandy/Dean or Cooper in LF, Brinson in CF, and say CarGo, Adam Jones, Span or Parra in RF. Those guys should all get 1 year deals and we can offer plenty of ABs until the deadline.

[Namaste]

I don't understand that at all.

I like everyone at the other place but there’s one mod over there who posts 900 times a day and he got caught in a post editing lie so I think he’s still butt hurt over that.

[lou]

Definitely need at least 1 RP.

I would be in favor of signing Maldonado just so we don't have to carry Wallach or Holaday on the roster all year again.

I still would like to sign a starting OF. I would like to leave BA at 3rd (can't count on Prado...I'd honestly consider just releasing him and eating the money) and have Grandy/Dean or Cooper in LF, Brinson in CF, and say CarGo, Adam Jones, Span or Parra in RF. Those guys should all get 1 year deals and we can offer plenty of ABs until the deadline.

How about Nick Hundley - he's really hit lefties the last two seasons (Alfaro has a career split heavily favoring RHP). I like Maldonado, but he may be looking for more playing time. Either way, I think those are the targets and both good role players they could maybe trade.

I'm with you entirely here. I think Maldonado/Hundley, any RP to get saves (to keep Steckenrider/Conley cheaper in arbitration assuming they keep them), and another CF rounds out the offseason.

C - Alfaro, Maldonado/Hundley
1B - Walker, Cooper/O'Brien
2B - Castro
SS - Rojas, Riddle
3B - Prado
LF - Granderson
CF - Brinson, _______(I don't think Parra or Span can play CF anymore, so not sure who they can get)
RF - Anderson

SP - Urena, Chen, Straily, and I guess give first shots to Ca. Smith and Richards to prove it
RHP - _________(Warren? Norris? Clippard?), Steckenrider, Guerrero, Ferrell, and battle of Kinley/Anderson/Brigham/Whoever
LHP - Conley, Garcia, Quijada

Your call-ups for first half of the year which is good enough:

C - Holaday
IF - Cooper/Alvarez, Y. Rivera
OF - Dean, Herrera, H. Ramirez
SP - Alcantara, Pablo
RP - Tons of RHP options

I agree they can just DFA Prado, move Anderson to 3B, and just replace with Dean/Cooper/Herrera/Ramirez, but I think they can also do that in May if Prado doesn't have a good first 125+ PA. Might as well try with him as it's not like anyone is blocked and maybe he could be cashed in for an arm if they eat payroll in July.

For what they are going for in 2019, I don't hate it if they fill out with some OK veterans to plug some holes, strive for minimum competency, have good mentors for the kids, etc.

[fauowls44]

Mike Hill said today that they plan on keeping Anderson at 3rd. If so, all the more reason to bring in another OF on a 1 year deal.

[fish16]

Adam Jones is the guy I’d be all over on a 1 year deal

[lou]

Mike Hill said today that they plan on keeping Anderson at 3rd. If so, all the more reason to bring in another OF on a 1 year deal.

Fine with me. That makes for a strange roster though:

C - Alfaro, "Backup"
1B - Walker, O'Brien
2B - Castro
SS - Rojas, Riddle
3B - Anderson, Prado
LF - Granderson
CF - Brinson
RF - Herrera

You're basically playing Walker/Rojas/Prado as your backup corner OF, Anderson there for in-game switches for a few innings, and Herrera would shift to CF when not playing. I think we'd all be praying for O'Brien to hit to have to play 5+ days a week so Walker is cast into a corner OF slot, or they play him at 3B and just move Anderson back to RF on a temporary basis.

The Prado DFA makes a ton of sense if they are committed to Anderson at 3B moving forward. Removing him and adding a veteran OF would be big, and let Herrera fight off Dean/Ramirez/Cooper for the last OF spot not caring about having to have a CF.

This also ignores Brinson may need to go to AAA for incompetence purposes so you're just awfully thin at CF for this year as I don't think VVM/Monte/Sierra/Miller are 2019 players.

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Adam Jones is the guy I’d be all over on a 1 year deal

That would be ideal, but he will get a better gig. He's made enough money in his career to not worrying about an extra $1-2 million versus winning.

If Denard Span can play CF still, he'd be my pick for a more realistic option. Maybin is probably next on the list of all people. Parra after that. Those dudes won't sign with contenders.

[tjfla]

Payroll is 73 million now(According to Barry Jackson)

1 or 2 RP-Bud Smith/Warren/Vincent/Clippard/AJ
C-Hundley/Maldonado
OF-Span/Parra/Maybin/CarGo

They will be looking for guys with "value". Care less away winning they want guys who they could trade and get stuff for at the deadline

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I have no issue with BA at 3B this year because he will be there in 2020 and longer. We have a need in OF now but 2020-no need at all

Maybe Gaby Guerrero or Ramirez destroy pitching in ST-both could slot in RF

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Highly doubt they do it but would love Tristan Pompey to get some time at 1B in Jupiter this year. We have an opening at 1B and maybe he slides in there 2020/21?

[fauowls44]

Melky Cabrera signed a minor league deal with the Pirates, so that’s one potential OF option down.

[lou]

Melky Cabrera signed a minor league deal with the Pirates, so that’s one potential OF option down.

I'm starting to think they should maybe go the trade route here. They really need a CF and not a corner player, and Maybin might be the best of the bunch. That's saying something.

Marisnick is out of options and has no chance of making the Astros with a White, Kemp, Diaz, and Stassi bench. They may have to DFA him. I can only imagine he's around in case someone gets hurt before opening day, but they also have Straw who is probably good enough. Why not float Straily to them? That's a legit 1-1 of low level 5th SP and bench players with 2 years of control and helps both positionally. Urena, Chen, Pablo/Richards/Alcantara/Ca.Smith and Neidert/Gallen in August is plenty. Just saying.

[sports24/7]

While I think the Marlins could have gotten more value out of trading a handful of all-stars, they look like they may be in decent shape if an ok percentage of their prospects realize their potential. The odds are that they will along with some underachieving, and some guys we may not be talking about much unexpectedly becoming good. The most encouraging thing to me is how they've built their rotation. You pretty much need Sanchez to hit, but if he does, you have him and potentially Alcantara as a pretty good front end, with a bunch of guys who could be solid mid to late rotation guys. I also think they have a bunch of guys who look like they could be at least solid starting players. If all of that goes relatively to plan, you hit on a couple guys in the next two drafts, and they go out and get a top level player in FA, they could actually make this thing work.

[Namaste]

I agree, sports, but if Alcantara becomes a #3, The FO will have to go out and get a #2ish guy for the World Series push in 2021.

[rmc523]

Definitely need at least 1 RP.

I would be in favor of signing Maldonado just so we don't have to carry Wallach or Holaday on the roster all year again.

I still would like to sign a starting OF. I would like to leave BA at 3rd (can't count on Prado...I'd honestly consider just releasing him and eating the money) and have Grandy/Dean or Cooper in LF, Brinson in CF, and say CarGo, Adam Jones, Span or Parra in RF. Those guys should all get 1 year deals and we can offer plenty of ABs until the deadline.

I'm all for signing an outfielder to a 1 year deal.

[tjfla]

Nick Hundley to Oakland

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I'm all for signing an outfielder to a 1 year deal.

They wanna sign 1 but also wouldn't be surprised if they also jumped on DFA types at ST like lou mentioned. We have #1 Spot in NL and #4 Overall so can add some talent that way. Every year 3/4 guys who have talent get DFA and turn out to be very solid(Brad Hand)

RP signing will happen this week with Bud Smith/Warren/Vincent as their Top Choices. Probably see 1 of them maybe 2 and 2 or 3 guys signed to Invite Deals(AJ Ramos and LHP)

They have offer out to Maldonado but from what I heard have told him they want Alfaro playing tons and aren't desperate. Fine with Holaday or Wallach as backup

Remember that 2019 is a throw away year. They are looking for cheap guys who have "value" in July and not just sign a guy to take innings or AB's. Wouldn't be surprised if we signed some Invite Deal Guys this week and even prefer that to ML Deals. If u sign guys to Invite Deals u can hit the DFA market hard and have options the first week even tho we are NOT facing a crunch

60 Day-Fernandez/Caleb Smith
DFA(in order)-Brice,Kinley,Brigham,Herrera,Wallach
Trade-Straily

3 Spots "Open"-Backup C and 2 RP. 1 Spot "Maybe"-OF

Backup C-60 Day Fernandez
RP-DFA Brice
RP-DFA Kinley
OF-DFA Herrera

DFA guys in ST that have talent-60 Day Caleb Smith to get him back OR trade Straily

[tjfla]

73 Million(75 Million with Grandy) and probably would be fine spend 90 Million. So 15 mill to play with.I dont think they go that high but that would be MAX

Havent heard much about it lately but wish they would call Seattle and see about Prado/Encarnacion again or even better Chen/Encarnacion

[rmc523]

73 Million(75 Million with Grandy) and probably would be fine spend 90 Million. So 15 mill to play with.I dont think they go that high but that would be MAX

Havent heard much about it lately but wish they would call Seattle and see about Prado/Encarnacion again or even better Chen/Encarnacion

The only thing is, isn't Encarnacion basically a DH at this point?