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  • Weird how Catcher has been our most productive offensive position.

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    • Originally posted by Todd View Post
      It's amazing how bad the return for Yelich was considering his age and club friendly contract.

      And it's not like it was thought of as some amazing return package at the time either. Three position players, all of whom with the near consensus opinion of "ability to hit is questionable"(with Diaz and Brinson both further having their defensive ability questioned) and a pitcher who no one really knew where to project(is he a backend starter? Reliever? Organizational filler?).

      They seem to have literally jumped at the first offer that came their way just to get the small amount of money(relative) Yelich was due off the books.
      Agree and its why they took so long with the Realmuto trade. They know they fucked up the Yelich givaway....they HAD to hit on Realmuto. It's already a rebuild that many experts say is mediocre at best. They are nowhere near Atlanta, Philly, Cubs, Astros or Royals rebuilds at the same time. If they get a team that wins 78 to 85 wins but is cheap...that seems to be what is going to be okay for them,......

      It's about "sustainability" not winning....you guys gotta listen to Jeter...he never says "winning franchise" but a "sustainable: one....it's about getting the team to profitability

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      • i just wish they stopped after the stanton trade and rode with Yelich and JT. Having Yelich right now would make this a drastically different situation. I get why they did it and it doesnt look good right now but ill give it some more time. I still like almost every other move but just would have loved to see Yelich, JT, and this pitching. In hindsight they should have stopped afrer the Ozuna, Dee, and Stanton trades.

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        Chen all star run?

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        • They need to send brinson down and do what they are doing with sierra and just let him destroy some minor league pitching for a month and work on things out of the spotlight.

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          • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
            They need to send brinson down and do what they are doing with sierra and just let him destroy some minor league pitching for a month and work on things out of the spotlight.
            it's getting ridiculous how this guy is getting chance after chance. You are giving him the Skipworth/Allison/Hermida treatment. He is what he is - yes he shows some power at times, but he's just not a player in MLB. He's a career AAA guy at best. They are wasting their time & the fans time too. Move on....you fucked up the Yelich trade with both Brinson & Harrison, and you gave away to Milwaukee what looks like a perrinial MVP candidate for basically nothing. MOVE ON - get the vestigages of that trade off the team....the longer he is here & the more Yelich does well the more incompetent Jeter & Hill look.

            The problem is Sherman doesn't have the no-how to step in & tell Jeter he fucked up & order him to move on & not waste more time.

            It's turned into a Beinfest trap like Hermida, Allison & Skipworth, where those guys were given year after year of chances & because it hurt Beinfests pride that he made HORRENDOUS picks his ego never let him get rid of them, hoping beyond hope that one day things would click for them, and his reputation would be restored.

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            Originally posted by fish16 View Post

            Chen all star run?
            I guess it's about as possible as Brinson hitting .260 for a season

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            • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
              i just wish they stopped after the stanton trade and rode with Yelich and JT. Having Yelich right now would make this a drastically different situation. I get why they did it and it doesnt look good right now but ill give it some more time. I still like almost every other move but just would have loved to see Yelich, JT, and this pitching. In hindsight they should have stopped afrer the Ozuna, Dee, and Stanton trades.
              I still would have traded JT unless he signed an extension. It's still about the years. 5 years of Yelich was stupid to trade but we don't need to go over that. Everything they've done has been fine besides Yelich, but sadly their biggest whiff, was their biggest whiff.

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              • Originally posted by lou View Post
                I still would have traded JT unless he signed an extension. It's still about the years. 5 years of Yelich was stupid to trade but we don't need to go over that. Everything they've done has been fine besides Yelich, but sadly their biggest whiff, was their biggest whiff.
                Agreed, just wish we would have stopped before yelich last year and seen what he and JT would have done had they seen the pitching coming into this year. I still think Brinson turns out to be a regular and same with Diaz and Monte and Yamamoto will at least be a middle relief type guy so i dont think its horrendous like the Cabrera deal but watching Yelich is just painful. He is just so fucking good.

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                • Blake Swihart was DFA. I would jump all over him but they probably end up trading him so

                  3rd C,1B,OF who is a switch hitter and 27

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                  • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                    Blake Swihart was DFA. I would jump all over him but they probably end up trading him so

                    3rd C,1B,OF who is a switch hitter and 27
                    Him and Brad Miller...both would be nice upgrades.

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                    • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                      Agreed, just wish we would have stopped before yelich last year and seen what he and JT would have done had they seen the pitching coming into this year. I still think Brinson turns out to be a regular and same with Diaz and Monte and Yamamoto will at least be a middle relief type guy so i dont think its horrendous like the Cabrera deal but watching Yelich is just painful. He is just so fucking good.
                      Still could have

                      ML 2B
                      ML CF
                      ML 4th OF
                      ML RP

                      for 1 guy.

                      Was it a bad trade? Probably but they got exactly what they wanted.

                      They asked Toronto for Vlad Jr straight up and were talking Yelich and salary(Prado) for Bo and minor pieces but wanted more ML guys then just 1 so took the Milwaukee deal.
                      Last edited by tjfla; 04-16-2019, 12:52 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                        Blake Swihart was DFA. I would jump all over him but they probably end up trading him so

                        3rd C,1B,OF who is a switch hitter and 27
                        Yes, jump all over. There is some RP that works, and Boston could always chuck in a second FV40+ guy if it's someone on the MLB roster

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                        Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                        Still could have

                        ML 2B
                        ML CF
                        ML 4th OF
                        ML RP

                        for 1 guy.

                        Was it a bad trade? Probably but they got exactly what they wanted.

                        They asked Toronto for Vlad Jr straight up and were talking Yelich and salary(Prado) for Bo and minor pieces but wanted more ML guys then just 1
                        They will need to get 30 WAR out of the 4 of them through their club controlled years to break even.

                        We're at least 20 WAR away right now from a disaster of a trade, and that's getting a 2 WAR starter with one of them, a solid 1 WAR platoon/backup for another, and some fleeting contributions from the other 2. And that just moves us to "disaster" instead of "complete disaster."

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                        • Originally posted by lou View Post
                          Yes, jump all over. There is some RP that works, and Boston could always chuck in a second FV40+ guy if it's someone on the MLB roster

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                          They will need to get 30 WAR out of the 4 of them through their club controlled years to break even.

                          We're at least 20 WAR away right now from a disaster of a trade, and that's getting a 2 WAR starter with one of them, a solid 1 WAR platoon/backup for another, and some fleeting contributions from the other 2. And that just moves us to "disaster" instead of "complete disaster."
                          U know we aint trading anything for Swihart. They will put in a claim but Boston will trade him to someone for player or 2. We have TONS of RP in upper levels who Boston could use just doubt we do it

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                          • @CraigMish
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                            Marlins are making multiple roster moves today apparently. Surprising ones too from what I hear. Need some double and triple checking on these.

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                            • Originally posted by gustavopim View Post
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                              Marlins are making multiple roster moves today apparently. Surprising ones too from what I hear. Need some double and triple checking on these.
                              Brinson and Chen?

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                              • Mish says Galloway has been recalled. I wonder if Granderson or Herrera is gone.

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