Season Super Game Thread

[fish16]

Is there a website that compares runs scored between minor leagues? Just looking at player numbers between the high-A leagues, it doesn't seem like there's much difference between the Carolina League and the California League. Florida State League seems like more of an outlier by being extremely pitcher-friendly which we're all aware of.

Im sure baseball reference has something like this on their site. I think the California league is just as much of a hitters league if not more than the FSL is as a pitchers league. But they are similar in terms of how they can skew prospects lines. Just something to keep in mind when evaluating prospects across the minors. Stats put up in different leagues can be very context dependent.

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Oh cheer up buttercup. I'm sure you'll get your panties all tingly when Brinson finally breaks the Mendosa line.

What's it like having your prediction for wins for the season broken in mid july, and then adjusting that prediction in mid july, only to see your adjusted prediction then broken before august 1?

[Maddawg]

What's it like having your prediction for wins for the season broken in mid july, and then adjusting that prediction in mid july, only to see your adjusted prediction then broken before august 1?

Actually very happy & pleasantly surprised. Which is a very unusual feeling for a true long-term Marlins fan, you know someone thats followed (as a normal fan, not a nerdy sabermetrics egocentric douche that has ZERO social skills) the Marlins since the day of the announcement the franchise was being awarded.

[fish16]

Actually very happy & pleasantly surprised. Which is a very unusual feeling for a true long-term Marlins fan, you know someone thats followed (as a normal fan, not a nerdy sabermetrics egocentric douche that has ZERO social skills) the Marlins since the day of the announcement the franchise was being awarded.

can totally tell your happiness and surprise by your trolling and unrelenting cynicism. Also, if taking the time to actually be informed about a topic and not forming opinions by daily wild swings of cynical emotion makes me a "nerdy sabermetrics egocentric douche" ill take that gladly. Better than being a wildly emotional uninformed guy who has so little going on in his life that he feels the need to troll on a teams message board.

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apologies to the rest of the board. back on ignore he goes.

[fish16]

that reminds me, has there been any update on brinson? Been out for a month with just a hip bruise and no update that i have heard of. So stupid to lose a year of team control in the future for what he's done this year.

[fish16]

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That aint gonna get us victor victor unless he really wants to come here.

[Namaste]

People don’t actually believe that Brinson is out with a hip bruise for a month, right?

[fish16]

Braves pitching prospects are obviously a bit better, but aside from Kyle Wright's potential they seem to be like us in that they have a lot of SP depth but a lot of guys who have high floors but not as high ceilings. Granted their SP prospects are a notch up from ours in terms of potential where theirs have ceilings of #2's/3's and ours have ceilings of #3's/4's, but just a random observation of somewhat similar "problems" if that can ever be considered a problem.

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People don’t actually believe that Brinson is out with a hip bruise for a month, right?

I see what youre hinting at, but given the service time considerations that should be taken into account it would have made a ton of more sense just to send him down and let him work it out down in NOLA. Still cant believe they didnt just bite the bullet and send him down for a month or 2 to get the extra year of service time. His spring numbers were so obviously over what his peripherals suggested he was.

Hopefully it all works out, but I would have much rather preferred signing a bunch of vets and just be patient with some of these guys rathre than rushing them to the big leagues in a lost year. Merandy should never have been up here at all this year, Brinson was clearly not ready, and Sierra has no business being up here any time this year (and thats coming from one of the few on this board who likes his potential).

Just so many little things that individually arent big issues but collectively/organizationally are so easily avoidable in what was always going to be a lost year. Plus you missed out on the potential to deal vets at the deadline once certain prospects are big league ready. I like the overall direction of our rebuild in a macro sense, just wish we would fully embrace it and not rush guys in a lost year and do more things from a micro perspective that would have been better for the rebuild long term.

[sports24/7]

That aint gonna get us victor victor unless he really wants to come here.

I don't know. If he would rather be in Miami, that might not be enough of a difference to keep him from coming. The endorsement money he will probably make as a Cuban star in Miami will probably dwarf that difference. That being said, not getting IFA money in the Ziegler deal is pretty inexcusable. Especially if it was because they weren't willing to eat any of his deal.

[fauowls44]

People don’t actually believe that Brinson is out with a hip bruise for a month, right?

Well a hip bruise can take 2-4 weeks for full recovery. I do think part of why they shut him down was to get a lot of "rehab" at bats in the minors for a while.

The game last night was a mess, but good to see Sierra get 3 hits. Also good for Riddle to break out of his slump with 2 hits.

[emkayseven]

Love the Maybin deal, we all complained when we signed him but we got some IFA money and a decent top 25 prospect at a position of organizational need.

Regardless of if the Orioles outbid us on Mesa it is encouraging to see the Marlins actively acquiring IFA money. I don't think that should be overlooked. If they whiff on Mesa they have money to spend elsewhere. Plenty of the "best" guys have already signed but a lot of times you don't know with these 16 year old kids, sign a bunch and see what happens. Would have been easy for us to trade all our IFA money after Gaston fell through, but we went out and got more. Encouraging. Also worth noting, Baltimore city and state income taxes total 8.95%, Miami 0%. Plus the allure of being in Little Havana and not the city where Homicide: Life on the Street and The Wire are based. AND if you consider minors, it's the allure of a kid from Cuba being in Jacksonville FL and New Orleans as opposed to Bowie MD and Norfolk.

I think Castro clears waivers and we could trade him if we wanted. I don't see a market for Prado.

RP with control is interesting because it's possible that the control is overvalued by the team currently with the pitcher and undervalued by the potential receiving team. Most RP trades you see are rentals. With how volatile RP are (and how easy it is to create them out of thin air) I think teams would rather trade a little less for a guy on an expiring contract than more just to get the years of control. But on the flip side, if you've already got the reliever it's a pretty valuable piece. If performance is the same, I legitimately don't think there's any difference in Claw or Steck or Conley's market value from now until next trade deadline.

[Lee Stone]

Yesterday's highlight: Acquired a dandy in RHP Eveld. A Paddack-like deal in reverse? Eveld's minor league numbers suggest he, along with LHP Lee, are the brightest relievers in the system. Must have been a bidding war for Brad Ziegler.

[Erick]

Yesterday's highlight: Acquired a dandy in RHP Eveld. A Paddack-like deal in reverse? Eveld's minor league numbers suggest he, along with LHP Lee, are the brightest relievers in the system. Must have been a bidding war for Brad Ziegler.

Lol

[lou]

Is there anything about the failed Dodgers medical someone posted a tweet about?

I didn't see anything and wondering if there is a problem with presumably KB/AC/DS

[Lee Stone]

Lol

Eveld is having better results than Barraclough or Steckenrider at the same age/level. Biggest difference: fewer walks. The walks continue to hold DS and KB back years later. Similarly, Dylan Lee is an unheralded Marlin farmhand because of a recent move to relief pitching. The comparison to the Paddack trade is that Eveld was moved for a two-month rental and, despite not even being ranked as a prospect, Paddack was showing outstanding results/promise.

Here's another LOL Lee and Eveld will be far more successful than Guzman and Alcantara, who are showing little to no improvement.

[fish16]

Eveld is having better results than Barraclough or Steckenrider at the same age/level. Biggest difference: fewer walks. The walks continue to hold DS and KB back years later. Similarly, Dylan Lee is an unheralded Marlin farmhand because of a recent move to relief pitching. The comparison to the Paddack trade is that Eveld was moved for a two-month rental and, despite not even being ranked as a prospect, Paddack was showing outstanding results/promise.

Here's another LOL Lee and Eveld will be far more successful than Guzman and Alcantara, who are showing little to no improvement.

Paddack was ranked as a prospect you dope. And the fact that you still don’t understand the difference between the value of relievers and starters is hard to believe. Guzman and alcantara would be shut down relievers in the minors if they had the lesser stuff that those guys have and weren’t worth trying as starters