2024 Game Thread

[Nick]

What do you do with Griffin Conine? He was actually not bad at all in his time in the bigs. (relatively small sample 89 ABs) Hit for power, played great defense, struck out a lot, but about what he was doing in AAA. Also his K's were down 5% from what he did in 2023 at AA/AAA.

This'll be a tough call.

[fish16]

Yup, I’m surprised there wasn’t a bigger downturn, but it’ll be interesting to see if there’s a hangover where fewer people come out next year.

who knows

i wonder if the majority of that downturn is just a decrease in season tickets or individual game sales. would love to see the breakdown of season tickets over the years. it feels like the season tickets could account for a lot of the decrease coming off of a playoff season and doing nothing. feels like we have a baked in number of individual tickets sold because of how many other teams fans come to the ballpark over the course of the year between teams like the dodgers, yankees, mets, phillies, red sox, cubs, cardinals, etc.

[rmc523]

I appreciate it - and it is a direct correlation to not doing jackshit in the offseason last year setting up the team for the terrible start and lost season quickly.

Maybe, just maybe, Bruce will realize you have to spend money to make money, and yes cue Todd saying he is already making money due to the revenue sharing model which he is right about (+equity in team on future sale price does rise) so there is no incentive for Bruce to do anything, but we can hope.

Yup, I’m surprised there wasn’t a bigger downturn, but it’ll be interesting to see if there’s a hangover where fewer people come out next year.

who knows

[rmc523]

Bad idea...Goldschmidt on a 1 year deal to bridge gap to DDLS/other options. If he regains any spark deal him at deadline or just jettison him.

Sounds like a typical situations where he’ll go to another team have a great year and why didn’t we sign him, or we will somehow wind up signing him and he’ll completely collapse and be yet another terrible vet signing because we always seem to sign the vet bat one year too late lol

[Todd]

Bad idea...Goldschmidt on a 1 year deal to bridge gap to DDLS/other options. If he regains any spark deal him at deadline or just jettison him.

[sports24/7]

so gabe kapler is for sure going to be the next manager, right?

This was my assumption, and I’d be totally fine with that. But Barry Jackson mentioned Rocco Baldelli’s name if he shakes free as an option. It sounds like the Twins are keeping him but at the very least that suggests Bendix will take a look at external options.

[fish16]

so gabe kapler is for sure going to be the next manager, right?

[lou]

Not sure if the graphs will show up, I may have to repost them later somehow….

Alright Folks, Here are the final attendance stats for 2024:

Attendance was down 75,355 overall, or 930 per game - a 6.48% decrease.





Getting into trends - the inexplicable upward trend over last year lasted far longer than I thought (through like 60-something games), but as I've previously pointed out, when you play opponent throughout the year vs. previous years can have a big affect on a micro view of the season.

That said, attendance did trend upward from beginning of the year, even accounting for Opening Day, BUT the peaks and valleys were more extreme than last year when we were in the hunt, and was helped out by a few more popular opponents (PHI, LAD, and ATL) to close out the home schedule.











I don't have time to add the teams to the game# legend, so I'll give you the full game breakout below if you want to compare a game on the chart to the actual attenance figure:











Hopefully someone appreciates these lol.

I appreciate it - and it is a direct correlation to not doing jackshit in the offseason last year setting up the team for the terrible start and lost season quickly.

Maybe, just maybe, Bruce will realize you have to spend money to make money, and yes cue Todd saying he is already making money due to the revenue sharing model which he is right about (+equity in team on future sale price does rise) so there is no incentive for Bruce to do anything, but we can hope.

[rmc523]

Not sure if the graphs will show up, I may have to repost them later somehow….

Alright Folks, Here are the final attendance stats for 2024:

Attendance was down 75,355 overall, or 930 per game - a 6.48% decrease.





Getting into trends - the inexplicable upward trend over last year lasted far longer than I thought (through like 60-something games), but as I've previously pointed out, when you play opponent throughout the year vs. previous years can have a big affect on a micro view of the season.

That said, attendance did trend upward from beginning of the year, even accounting for Opening Day, BUT the peaks and valleys were more extreme than last year when we were in the hunt, and was helped out by a few more popular opponents (PHI, LAD, and ATL) to close out the home schedule.











I don't have time to add the teams to the game# legend, so I'll give you the full game breakout below if you want to compare a game on the chart to the actual attenance figure:











Hopefully someone appreciates these lol.

[rmc523]

Unsurprisingly, Skip has officially said he’s not returning next year.

[Namaste]

Xavier Edwards first Marlin to ever have 3 triples in one game. WOW

[fish16]

Yes, playing CF on the road is very easy and there are never any fluctuations in ball flight.

You’re such a pant load.

fuck off i literally said it was a good catch. No one said it's very easy. you're just a miserable homer. doesnt change the fact that if a guy is falling backwards on his ass to make a catch, he took a bad route. it's like a guy having to dive to make a catch because they got a bad jump. it might have been the single best catch ive ever seen from a guy on a team 40 games under .500 with 100 losses wheezing to the finish line of a god awful season. happy now?

[Namaste]

the all world catch was necessary because he took a bad route to the ball and over ran it initially but good play,

Yes, playing CF on the road is very easy and there are never any fluctuations in ball flight.

You’re such a pant load.

[lou]

the tigers of this year feel a lot like the marlins of last year. out of their top 10 hitters with the most AB's this year, only 2 have an OPS above .692, Riley greene at .833 and Vierling at .736. Skubal is obviously the cy young but nothing else in their pitching staff is all that crazy. their 2dn best pitcher by WAR has been a dodger for 2 months. Somehow their expected W/L is exactly what it was thus far this year. pretty crazy.

31-24 one run record, most wins in the league. Yes, they are the Marlins. They also have a 9-1 record against the White Sox and 3 more to go so call it 12-1 shortly. 58-29 run differential against them. Only other teams with crazy single team numbers against 1 opponent:

KC 12-1 vs CHW. Lol.
MIN 12-1 vs CHW. Lol again
WASH 11-2 vs.... MIA <---- Come on guys
NYM 11-2 vs WASH


Seattle is getting screwed by KC, MIN, and DET having a billion games against the White Sox propping them up. Seattle should be the last wild card team but thems the ropes.

[fish16]

Derek Hill made another all world catch tonight.

Hell of a ballgame, too. 4 hours long.

the all world catch was necessary because he took a bad route to the ball and over ran it initially but good play,