2023 Game Thread

[fish16]

But we knew that coming in - the improvement is going to be mostly regression to the mean on injuries/1 run luck.

I don't think we need to have a knee jerk reaction on a SSS. For instance, these are the Marlins/Mets slashes for the series:

Mets - .223/.333/.354, 17 Runs, 3 HR (8 more walks, same amount of hits for the OBP)
Marlins - .228/.290/.386, 8 Runs, 4 HR

It's not like the Mets were real killers out there, and they are a top 5 team in baseball (on paper). These things are going to happen. We'll know in a few weeks. But yes, I share in the anger as getting a huge bat was an obvious move and they didn't do it. With 4 major SS available. Unserious until they do the "Werth" move for sure.

this. I wouldnt worry about 1 series, if anything it showed that the offseason plan to add more contact was successful. Arraez is going to be a huge improvement and Segura will pick it up, but the refusal to do what it takes to get at least 1 more star level impact bat in the middle of the order will be obvious. Im interested to see what happens with garcia if it starts to look like last year all over again. Ill give him time because 4 games isnt a fair sample size to evaluate the guy, but they cant just cut him and eat the money, so do they just let him rot on the bench and give him a start a week by june if this continues. Him and Wendle are not sustainable in the same lineup without more impact bats up top.

[lou]

But a better bullpen and an elite lead off hitter. And I disagree the starting pitching is worse

We’re 4 games in. The first 6 weeks of the season are rough opponent wise.

Yes, they will be better. If people want to knock a 1-3 record on an outrageous SSS, the defense has graded as neutral over 4 games and they are 17th in OPS. That's 14th best position core through 4 games.

I mean this is going to fluctuate wildly until the end of May and maybe all of Garcia, DLC, Sanchez, Yuli, Wendle, and Stallings stink so they have a pure dead zone 2-3 spots in the lineup all days, but I think it's silly for someone to make 2-3 posts the entire offseason and then storm back to say they went 1-3 in an opening series against the Mets. SSS.

Frankly, I'm most interested in Soler and Fortes really hammered some balls and maybe Arraez is even better than we think as he has low exposure against NL teams and these pitchers don't know how to deal with him yet. I'm pretty sure Jazz is going to be great and Cooper, Segura, Berti, and Wendle will be themselves, so if we're thinking about good omens - Soler and Fortes working out are two of the biggest things they will need to have a chance. Gotta get something out of the other outfielders, but we'll see what happens. The SP will stabilize pretty quickly IMO.

[Maddawg]

I would say it’s going to be a long year, but that’s basically every year when you’re a Marlins fan.

This team still stinks.

yep, Kim Ng sell your house

[Nick]

Yeah it’s the Mets but David Peterson and Tylor Megill aren’t exactly worldbeaters. We’ll see about Senga. Then a bullpen without their best arm. Frustrating to have your lead off guy go 9 for 16 and only muster 8 runs in a 4 game series.

[fish16]

on the minor league side, Leblanc and burdick each hit 2 homers yesterday, 1 apiece off of ian anderson. Burdick also struck out in his other 4 ab's.

[Maddawg]

But a better bullpen and an elite lead off hitter. And I disagree the starting pitching is worse

We’re 4 games in. The first 6 weeks of the season are rough opponent wise.

We're 6 years into a 5-year rebuild and the team looked pathetic in Spring Training and now the 1st series as well. Now everyone be a good soldier and go buy tickets and reward a cheap owner for being AWFUL.

[fish16]

We're 6 years into a 5-year rebuild and the team looked pathetic in Spring Training and now the 1st series as well. Now everyone be a good soldier and go buy tickets and reward a cheap owner for being AWFUL.

why are you here? Just go away. I get your life is just so lonely and miserable that you have to spread that to others, but no one gives a shit what you have to say. you're wasting your time and breath even posting here.

[Namaste]

Wild how there are people here and on Twitter who are all SEASON OVER/WE ARE PATHETIC after they go 1-3 against the Mets.
Only 158 games left, boys.

[rmc523]

Looks like they’ll be basically the same team as last year, but with worse defense, and maybe worse starting pitching.

I’m not sure why I let this team make me as angry as they do, but here we are again with an unserious franchise.

Almost like they needed another big bat or two. If only anyone.....everyone knew that lol.

[fish16]

Almost like they needed another big bat or two. If only anyone.....everyone knew that lol.

the craziest thing is that this lineup can and likely will be improved over last years product and still be bottom 3rd of the league. Arraez was a huge get, but Garcia, Wendle, and Stallings just cannot be every day players. Maybe garcia bounces back, but there is no bounce back to wendle and stallings, they are thoroughly mediocre players at best. They so desperately need an all star SS or one more impact OF bat.

Also, the Jazz experiment in CF has been terrible thus far. Hopefully it gets better, but if it doesnt idk how they keep this going the whole year.

[lou]

the craziest thing is that this lineup can and likely will be improved over last years product and still be bottom 3rd of the league. Arraez was a huge get, but Garcia, Wendle, and Stallings just cannot be every day players. Maybe garcia bounces back, but there is no bounce back to wendle and stallings, they are thoroughly mediocre players at best. They so desperately need an all star SS or one more impact OF bat.

Also, the Jazz experiment in CF has been terrible thus far. Hopefully it gets better, but if it doesnt idk how they keep this going the whole year.

If Wendle and Stallings are mediocre, that will be a very good omen just to mention.

It's also easy what happens. Arraez/Soler/Berti are going to play a lot more OF, Sanchez/DLC shift to a CF platoon, Arraez plays a lot more 1B, Cooper plays a lot more DH. Yuli gets DFA'd for Iglesias as Wendle will need the help on lefties and Berti may not be available. Jazz handles 2B forever. I have no short term issues with what they'd do without Jazz in CF. The team would set itself with what they have today. This ignores the total failure of the CF experiment of course.

The longterm issue is then, not only do you need a longterm SS, you now need a longterm CF as well and I'm back on that soapbox. I'll spare the "what if" permutation, but basically they'd be looking at signing a FA SP again ala Cueto or better, and then using that to create trade depth for another bat. Plus would need to sign Rosario or Bader in free agency as the 2nd big bat upgrade, etc. And re-sign Cooper or better for a 1 year platoon 1B/DH (or maybe Soler doesn't opt out). And a good RHP reliever more than likely.

Rinse, repeat offseason.

[lou]

They just moved Enright to 60-day IL. Hope the guy is doing alright, but at the same time they can really milk this to keep him off the MLB team as long as possible to retain his rights.

Jeff Lindgren was just called up. Because nothing makes sense anymore. How is that happening the 5th game of the year where non-prospect adds are up? I understand Enright and Nance are hurt (as well as Sixto, Meyer, and Bender) among right handers, but this is really digging deep. I suppose they feel no one will pick him up once he is DFA'd and don't care if they lose him just to have a body up there for garbage time, but still.

[Nick]

Let’s keep everything here. Braxton Garrett to AAA. Lindgren up because we’re preparing our human white flag. Discuss.

[lou]

Let’s keep everything here. Braxton Garrett to AAA. Lindgren up because we’re preparing our human white flag. Discuss.

TLDR - Even with all the RHP + Okert injuries they should have a better call-up option and that's on them.

Watch this dude throw 2.2 scoreless today now with a 1.80 WHIP

[Nick]

Come be the Marlins GM, where most of your responsibilities will be preparing for who is going to throw multiple innings in a game you're losing.