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  • Originally posted by fauowls44 View Post
    Joe Frisaro
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    An under the radar #Marlins pitcher attracting trade interest is Elieser Hernandez. The 24 yr old can start, relieve. He throws strikes and is controllable for five more years. MIA could net a big league or close to big league ready outfielder for him. #WinterMeetings
    I don't get it.

    MLB now - Cooper-Berti/Sierra-Anderson
    Immediate depth - Dean/Brinson-Monte-Sanchez
    In 1-2 years - Bleday-VVM-Jerar
    In 2-3 years - Burdick-Scott-Misner

    There are 4 layers of good names here. How about just sign a backup to get to the summer?

    Keep Hernandez? He be may extremely useful as the 4th RHP out of the pen for years?

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    How about sign a big right handed bat and TRADE an outfielder for more pitching?

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    • I just get the sense that with every Marlins rumor I hear that saving money is still #1 on their list of priorities. Despite the payroll already being laughably low.

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      • Originally posted by fauowls44 View Post
        Joe Frisaro
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        An under the radar #Marlins pitcher attracting trade interest is Elieser Hernandez. The 24 yr old can start, relieve. He throws strikes and is controllable for five more years. MIA could net a big league or close to big league ready outfielder for him. #WinterMeetings

        Sure hope we keep Elieser. His shoddy 5+ERA concealed some sneaky good numbers such as over a K per inning and an impressive 1.24 WHIP.

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        • Originally posted by Lee Stone View Post
          Sure hope we keep Elieser. His shoddy 5+ERA concealed some sneaky good numbers such as over a K per inning and an impressive 1.24 WHIP.
          Yep. I kind of feel Elieser, Guzman, and Brigham are the future RHP bullpen core, and someone else (Cabrera) may join them as the rotation is going to get full at some point. Ideally Holloway is the 5th, and that's that.

          I think a really good bullpen is coming.

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          • Tjflas janitor friend was right on. We pick sterling sharp with the 3rd pick in the rule 5

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            • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
              Tjflas janitor friend was right on. We pick sterling sharp with the 3rd pick in the rule 5
              Credit where credit is due, good info right there.

              Pre 2019 FG scouting:

              Though he’ll be 24 in May, the clay may not be totally dry on Sharp, who has several late bloomer traits. Tall, lanky, cold-weather arms often develop late; small-college players are typically a little behind large conference peers; and malleable athletes are frequently able to make adjustments throughout their entire careers. Sharp is all of these. Originally from Michigan, he pitched at three colleges in three years (Eastern Michigan, Darton State College, and Drury University) in front of various groups of area scouts before he was drafted late in 2016. Sharp is also an ectomorphic 6-foot-4, and his limbs distract and also aid in his down-mound extension, enabling his fastball to sneak up on hitters more often than one would expect given its fringe velocity. Sharp learned the grip for his sinker, which has helped him generate a nearly 60% ground ball rate over the last two years, by seeing Blake Treinen’s grip on the internet. Scouts have also noted that he has begun to vary the timing of his delivery to disorient hitters, à la Johnny Cueto. He’s clearly still developing and doing so quickly. His stuff — the sinker, a good changeup, average slider — looks like that of a swing man or up/down arm, and most pitchers this age with this kind of stuff don’t end up on our lists. But that stuff might play up because of extension and deception and continue to improve as Sharp’s body and feel for his craft evolve. He may end up as a core member of a pitching staff rather than just a depth arm.

              The 2019 Sleeper: Sterling Sharp, RHP: Sharp, 23, is an interesting pitcher in the system that hasn’t gotten much love until now. He’s tall and lanky and, when he throws, is all arms and legs leading to some additional deception. He’s extremely athletic but struggles with consistent command. The lack of swing-and-miss that he elicits will limit his overall ceiling but he generates a lot of weak contact that ends up on the ground; Sharp generates extremely high ground-ball rates. He has a solid low-90s fastball to go with an above-average changeup but the breaking ball remains a work in progress. There is perhaps No. 4 starter potential here with a little more patience.


              https://www.fangraphs.com/players/st...ats?position=P

              Those are some nice paragraphs for a free player?

              Nats bullpen was really bad last year why wasn't he up?

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              This definitely is more interesting than protecting Keller, Kinley, Moran, Milbrath, Eveld, etc.

              Stick him in the bullpen. Stanek, Steck, Brigham, Brice, Sharp, Garica, Conley, and "veteran"

              Hernandez has an option if not in rotation.

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              • Craig Mish

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                As I mentioned yesterday Marlins are interested IF Dickerson $ tag is reasonable. Checks the boxes. LH Bat. Short term deal. Etc.

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                Joe Frisaro

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                The #Marlins do not lose Will Stewart or Tommy Eveld or Dylan Lee in #Rule5draft

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                #Marlins are in agreement pending physical with reliever Yimi Garcia.

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                • Rotoworld on Sharp - It was a surprise that the Nationals left Sharp available, given that they entered the winter with as much roster flexibility as any team in the league. Sharp was limited to 12 starts last year, but he pitched pretty well in his first go in Double-A and he also had a 1.50 ERA in 24 innings in the Arizona Fall League. Factoring in both ceiling and proximity to the majors, he was probably the best option of anyone available in today's draft. Expect the Marlins to carry him as a middle reliever.

                  Compliments!

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                  Originally posted by rmc523 View Post
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                  As I mentioned yesterday Marlins are interested IF Dickerson $ tag is reasonable. Checks the boxes. LH Bat. Short term deal. Etc.

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                  Joe Frisaro

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                  The #Marlins do not lose Will Stewart or Tommy Eveld or Dylan Lee in #Rule5draft

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                  #Marlins are in agreement pending physical with reliever Yimi Garcia.
                  Nice on Stewart and Lee

                  Yimi.... I hope that's a MiLB deal? -.8 WAR last two years, but he did have a nice K/BB rate last year?

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                  Jesus Yimi had a .171 BABIP

                  I really hope that's a MiLB deal

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                  • Haven't seen more details to know

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                    • It’s a Major League deal supposedly. Falls in line with the new relievers with low walk rates mindset

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                        Yimi Garcia was non tendered by the Los Angeles Dodgers. Strike thrower. Excellent in low leverage spots with the Dodgers. Probably serves as a bridge in the pen of some kind. Miami still needs 1-2 quality high leverage pen arms.
                        12:55 PM · Dec 12, 2019·Twitter for iPhone
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                        • If you go in depth on Garcia’s numbers, it’s not a bad arm to have. His analytical numbers are pretty good. FB swinging strikes top 25, really high spin rate, throws strikes, and the contact given up isn’t that hard.

                          If he can normalize his HR rates, that’d be nice.

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                          • Marlins Park will help Garcia where he needs it ... fewer long balls. Seems like a sensible pickup. You want that very low WHIP for sure.

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                            • Originally posted by Erick View Post
                              If you go in depth on Garcia’s numbers, it’s not a bad arm to have. His analytical numbers are pretty good. FB swinging strikes top 25, really high spin rate, throws strikes, and the contact given up isn’t that hard.

                              If he can normalize his HR rates, that’d be nice.
                              Theoretically yes.

                              .171 BABIP is terrifying.

                              I suppose this means they are going to trade likely Brice (which is fine) or maybe Steckenrider opens on 60 day DL (is he ok?).

                              They need to clear out a reliever for sure.

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                              Or I guess Urena and Yamamoto and Hernandez are both in the rotation to open.

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                              • Originally posted by fauowls44 View Post
                                Joe Frisaro
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                                An under the radar #Marlins pitcher attracting trade interest is Elieser Hernandez. The 24 yr old can start, relieve. He throws strikes and is controllable for five more years. MIA could net a big league or close to big league ready outfielder for him. #WinterMeetings
                                If they can get a ML ready OF u make the trade

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                                Originally posted by lou View Post
                                Theoretically yes.

                                .171 BABIP is terrifying.

                                I suppose this means they are going to trade likely Brice (which is fine) or maybe Steckenrider opens on 60 day DL (is he ok?).

                                They need to clear out a reliever for sure.

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                                Or I guess Urena and Yamamoto and Hernandez are both in the rotation to open.
                                Still in on Romo,Joe Smith and Cishek too. Probably DFA Moran for spot

                                Wouldn't be a surprise to see Urena dealt soon

                                They want 1 or 2 more arms in addition to Garcia

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                                Fangraphs

                                In the computer’s eyes, Sterling Sharp is the pitcher most likely to earn a roster spot on merit. At a 91 ERA+ projection, the best of the starters drafted, Sharp would be comfortably above replacement-level. He made THE BOARD as the No. 14 prospect for the Nationals, an impressive curriculum vitae for a player left off the 40-man. Our prospect gurus felt that “he may end up as a core member of a pitching staff rather than just a depth arm.” Sharp’s not obviously one of Miami’s top five starters, but there’s plenty of room in the bullpen to look at him in a swing role, much the same way the Royals used Brad Keller.

                                Will compete for #5 spot but more likely LR/RP spot

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                                AAA part of Rule 5

                                #Marlins get catcher Julian Leon from the #Angels in the AAA phase of the Rule 5 draft.

                                23 years old. Career .237/.333/.395 line; 30% CS% including 43% last year.

                                Get a C for AA which we need and lost Jhonny Santos. Twins lost Brian Schales to Detroit for nothing

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                                Jon Heyman
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                                Marlins are talking to the Phillies about lefty hitting OF Corey Dickerson. He’s more in play for them than Rosario.

                                Think he means FA. They prefer a LHB FA like Dickerson or Calhoun the issue right now is both of them are waiting to see if contenders call first.
                                Last edited by tjfla; 12-12-2019, 02:59 PM.

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