I agree with what you're saynig, "Erick." My first choice is to keep Stanton and sign him long-term. However, the free agent market isn't that great (for what we need/afford) and I just don't know if Dietrich is going to pan out. I really think we need a longterm second baseman and catcher. Beyond that we are really set, right?
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I wouldn't mind going after Brian McCann and even overpaying a bit to get him. Considering the state of the franchise, I think it makes sense.
With that said, they don't necessarily have to sign guys to improve. They can always make trades, too. At the end of the day, the offense just isn't good at all and it's not just those two positions (although you can live with Marisnick/Ozuna hopefully improving their offense in CF and Hechavarria at SS if you get a couple of proven bats to offset some of the struggles they're going to have).
Just my opinion, anyway.
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Originally posted by tjfla View PostEven tho reports said that Pitt did not make an offer for Stanton,they did and that was the deal that had many in the FO wanting to trade him before the deadline. Yes even some of Loria's Yes men wanted to bring him the offer,it was that good.
The deal was Jameson Taillon,Alen Hanson,Josh Bell,and another prospect or 2for Stanton and a RP
Loria made the decision tho last week that he is not trading Stanton right now and will not even discuss it until the offseason.
They did however make the offer and watch for Stanton to Pitt IF they can't work out an extension in the off season.
Texas also made another offer however the Pitt one was the one that had many stunned in the FO
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If Austin Barnes moves up to Jacksonville and gets some of his pop back while keeping his good OBP ability, that might be an answer there as well.Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon MuffLogan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
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Originally posted by Erick View PostI don't really understand the direction of the franchise.
I think in Loria's eyes, guys are under club control (including all the relievers you are pissed they didn't trade with the exception of Qualls) so it doesn't matter if he trades them now or later because if someone wants them, someone will pay for them whenever. Of course, that is idiotic as it ignores playoff races and/or the financial reality of a players service time (being that, Stanton is more valuable to negotiate a deal with right now before he files for arbitration and that money becomes guaranteed), but hey. It just is what it is with this clown running the franchise.
Just baffles me. If they did this, I bet there would be a season ticket spike in September. Of course along with a real PR campaign that Loria agrees to be 99% "hands off," let Beinfest run the team, Redmond can choose his staff, and salary will raise in future seasons. People really want to like the Marlins. Just give them a fucking reason to root for them. Develop your business!
Stanton - 6/$85, Full no trade 4 years, 15 team no trade final 2
Fernandez - 6/$30, 5 team no trade
Cishek - 3/$15, option $8 buyout $1, second option $10, buyout $2 (3/$16, 4/$25, 5/$33)
Morrison - 3/$12, option $8 buyout $1, second option $10, buyout $2 (3/$13, 4/$22, 5/$30)
They would all take that in a heartbeat and all of that saves the Marlins a ton. And then in the off season, sign 1 significant free agent on a 3 year deal (I would say McCann or a SP if that is possible, probably $35-40 million range), keep Dunn, Webb, and Ruggiano on their arbitration tenders, and stopgap the infield with 1 year real veterans and not Polanco at 2B and 3B. Payroll is still bottom 5.
It's just hilarious. They are in such good shape right now if they would just act like Oakland or Tampa. I am completely reserved to the reality though that they are getting 4 guys for Stanton this winter and Loria is keeping the books clean for when someone gives him his asking price for the team.
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Loria would rather pay them less and have much less leverage in a buyout than buying them out and paying a little more now. And it has rarely worked. They wait too long and if they dont get it done, he has a convenient excuse to trade them by claiming they priced themselves out of the Marlins price range. The Rays, Nationals, etc. know how to do this. Loria could, I just dont think he favors any scenario where he has to pay more even if its the smartest thing in the world to do.Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon MuffLogan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
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Originally posted by Miamarlin21 View PostI agree with what you're saynig, "Erick." My first choice is to keep Stanton and sign him long-term. However, the free agent market isn't that great (for what we need/afford) and I just don't know if Dietrich is going to pan out. I really think we need a longterm second baseman and catcher. Beyond that we are really set, right?
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I would say both are probably still questions at this point.Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon MuffLogan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
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Originally posted by lou View PostI think in Loria's eyes, guys are under club control (including all the relievers you are pissed they didn't trade with the exception of Qualls) so it doesn't matter if he trades them now or later because if someone wants them, someone will pay for them whenever. Of course, that is idiotic as it ignores playoff races and/or the financial reality of a players service time (being that, Stanton is more valuable to negotiate a deal with right now before he files for arbitration and that money becomes guaranteed), but hey. It just is what it is with this clown running the franchise.
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Originally posted by Mainge View PostIf Dietrich isn't the answer at 2B, Hech shouldn't be a longterm answer at SS.LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-
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I dont think the trade was anything to be blown away by anyway. In fact, it was kind of light.Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon MuffLogan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
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