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Originally posted by Bobbob1313 View PostI honestly have no clue. None at all.
I'm not sure 100 innings where he struck out ~15 fewer batters than expected should be enough to change someone's opinion on him all that much, especially without having seen him pitch.
So, if they thought he was in that ballpark and are impressed with his stuff, I don't see why they ranking him there now is a travesty.
I also don't see why it's a bad thing to want strikeouts. Generally speaking, guys with high K rates have a lower babip and hr/fb%. Guys that strike out other guys are usually good.
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At the beginning of the year you gotta think that Pittsburgh (Cole, Tallion), Seattle (Walker, Hultzen), Arizona (Corbin, Bradley) New York (Wheeler, Harvey) were all ahead of us (Fernandez, Heaney.)
I wouldn't be mad if we acquired one or two more arms, but I do think 2B/3B should be more of a priority.Last edited by Miamarlin21; 08-01-2013, 11:50 PM.LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-
5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K
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Originally posted by Mainge View PostWorth noting that his groundball percentage is down and his line drive percentage is up. It's not just that his strikeouts are way down.
I also don't see why it's a bad thing to want strikeouts. Generally speaking, guys with high K rates have a lower babip and hr/fb%. Guys that strike out other guys are usually good.
I'm just saying, his K rate is down, but the raw numbers aren't actually that big a deal due to the small sample size. If he had struck out 15 more batters, he's roughly in line with his career norms.
And the LD% and GB% rate are small enough changes that it could be random fluctuation. It could be meaningful, but it isn't necessarily the case.
So, if scouts think his stuff hasn't changed, I don't see much of a compelling reason to discount him based on this season.poop
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I'm most intrigued by Flynn simply because he's doing it at a higher level than the other guys.
8.92k/9 .241baa 3.14era 3.03fip .311babip (so no skewed luck going on) in AAA
big lefty who throws 92-94 and putting up those numbers
the report before the season was good fastball, needs to develop a change. no one writes anything about our prospects, so no idea if change development is what caused this leap, but would be the safest assumption
it's hard not to be excited about him
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Flynn's July: 5gs 34.2ip 23ha 12bb 31k .193/.267/.202 1.30era
he allowed 1 xbh (a double) the entire month
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Flynn is def really intriguing. And his size is awesome. Conley cool too. Sucks that Lowell still isn't pitching any word on his crap? Nice bunch of lefty prospects. Not to continue the Nicolino bashing but yea Flynn and Conley are cooler ATM."You owe it to yourself to find your own unorthodox way of succeeding, or sometimes, just surviving."
- Michael Johnson
J.T. Realmuto .282/.351/.412
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We really could use another RH pitcher or two. We're stacked with "better" lefty prospects in the minors (Heaney, Flynn, Conley, Nicolino, Hand) compared to DeSclafani, Urena and Sanchez for righties. Granted, Conley, DeSclafani and Urena could go to the pen.LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-
5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K
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Anyhows here's Brian Flynn pitching with cat sounds in background.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvUs88ghJuw[/ame]"You owe it to yourself to find your own unorthodox way of succeeding, or sometimes, just surviving."
- Michael Johnson
J.T. Realmuto .282/.351/.412
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Flynn video on MILB.com
vs. Mike Olt, 6/29/13: http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.j...nt_id=28476515
vs. Donnie Murphy, 7/23/13: http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.j...nt_id=29090605
vs. Alex Castellanos, 7/28/13: http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.j...nt_id=29242889
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Originally posted by Bobbob1313 View PostI don't think I've implied that strikeouts aren't a good thing.
I'm just saying, his K rate is down, but the raw numbers aren't actually that big a deal due to the small sample size. If he had struck out 15 more batters, he's roughly in line with his career norms.
And the LD% and GB% rate are small enough changes that it could be random fluctuation. It could be meaningful, but it isn't necessarily the case.
So, if scouts think his stuff hasn't changed, I don't see much of a compelling reason to discount him based on this season.
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