Marlins Trade Anibal Sanchez & Omar Infante To Tigers For Jacob Turner & Prospects

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Dude doesn't strike out people.

[Erick]

Flynn probably projects to be a bullpen arm, right? He's been much better against left-handed hitters.

[Bobbob1313]

Here's what BaseballProspectus had to say about the guys we got before the season:

1. Jacob Turner, RHP, 5-star prospect
DOB: 5/21/91
Height/Weight: 6’5/210
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: First round, 2009, Westminster Christian Academy HS (MO)
2011 Stats: 3.48 ERA (113.2-102-32-90) at AA (17 G), 3.12 ERA (17.1-15-3-20) at AAA (3 G), 8.53 ERA (12.2-17-4-8) at MLB (3 G)
Tools Profile: Fantastic combination of stuff and polish.

Year in Review: The top prospect in the system reached the big leagues before his 21st birthday and looked like he belonged.
The Good: Turner has three average-to-plus pitches that all play up due to highly advanced command and control. He throws several variations of an 89-95 mph fastball that he adds and subtracts from while adding cut or sink. His power curveball is an easy plus offering that he uses to get outs while ahead in the count, and his changeup is advanced for his age. He has a big, strong frame, easy delivery, and maintains his stuff deep into games and late into seasons.
The Bad: While it's hard to find weaknesses in Turner's game, scouts are hesitant to put an ace projection on him without a plus-plus offering. While he throws a lot of strikes, he still needs to polish the command of those secondary offerings as well.
Ephemera: There have been 13 pitchers with the last name Turner in draft history, and Jacob is the only one to pitch in the big leagues.
Perfect World Projection: Number-two starter.
Fantasy Impact: Good across the board, but short of elite.
Path to the Big Leagues: Turner will compete for the final slot in the Tigers rotation this spring, and even if he doesn't open camp in the big leagues, he could spend much of the season there.
ETA: 2012.

10. Rob Brantly, C, 2-star prospect
DOB: 7/14/89
Height/Weight: 6’2/205
Bats/Throws: L/R
Drafted/Signed: Third round, 2010, University of California-Riverside
2011 Stats: .303/.366/.440 at A (75 G), .219/.239/.322 at High A (39 G)
Tools Profile: Solid across-the-board catcher.

Year in Review: Outstanding first half at Low-A, but he struggled big time after moving up to the Florida State League.
The Good: Brantly has abilities both at the plate and behind it. He has a smooth swing, excellent contact rates, and slightly below average power. He moves well for a catcher and has an above-average arm.
The Bad: Brantly doesn't have the kind of tools to be a star. His power is not projectable, and his on-base ability is a bit lacking. He can be guilty of stabbing at balls as opposed to receiving them.
Ephemera: The last player drafted out of UC Riverside to hit a big league home run is former Padres starter Eric Show, who hit the last of his four career home runs in 1985.
Perfect World Projection: A second-division starter or a good backup.
Fantasy Impact: Limited.
Path to the Big Leagues: Brantly struggled late in the year at High-A Lakeland and will return there in 2012.
ETA: 2014

11. Brian Flynn, LHP, 2-star prospect
DOB: 4/19/90
Height/Weight: 6’8/239
Bats/Throws: L/L
Drafted/Signed: Seventh round, 2011, Wichita State
2011 Stats: 3.46 ERA (67.2-58-23-57) at A (13 G)
Tools Profile: Huge left-hander with stuff.

Year in Review: Had an inconsistent spring, but he left scouts wondering how he fell to the seventh round during his pro debut.
The Good: Flynn's fastball ranges wildly from 87-93 mph, but he scraped the mid-90s at times in college, and with his height and release point, it comes in at a difficult angle for hitters to pick up on. He'll flash a plus slider and has a decent changeup.
The Bad: Flynn has very little track record for success, and everything about his game seems to come and go, not just from start-to-start but from inning-to-inning. His upside is intriguing, but he's certainly a risk.
Ephemera: Flynn won two state titles at Owasso High in Oklahoma, the same school that produced Baltimore top prospect Dylan Bundy.
Perfect World Projection: Flynn could be a star-level starter or an effective power reliever, but there is still much work to be done.
Fantasy Impact: Role to be determined. If he's moved to a relief role, he's unlikely to close.
Path to the Big Leagues: Flynn could open 2012 as far along as High-A Lakeland. He's easily one of the most intriguing players in the system.
ETA: 2014.

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Seems like we essentially replaced Rasmussen and Dominguez in our system, in terms of the long-term outlook.

[Anonymous]

Dude doesn't strike out people.

He's about average in that department. I don't think it's that worrisome. You look at JJ's K/9 in the minor leagues, and they were almost identical.

[lilchris11]

lots of scouts behind home plate lol

[Erick]

He's about average in that department. I don't think it's that worrisome. You look at JJ's K/9 in the minor leagues, and they were almost identical.

Worrisome might've been the wrong word for it.
All in all, I'm happy we got him. At this point in his career, it's probably more about stuff and hopefully he develops into what we're hoping for. Always good to get young arms.

[nny]

He's about average in that department. I don't think it's that worrisome. You look at JJ's K/9 in the minor leagues, and they were almost identical.

JJ also gained several MPH on his fastball. That's not common, normally they lose velo. Not a fair comp at all.

And Turner's at only a 6 K/9 this year

Still, you have to love the projection on him

[emkayseven]

I am a HUGH fan of this deal. Anibal was walking and Infante, while he was a steal of a signing, was at his all-time highest value. Brantly/Skipworth isn't out of the question in the future, I think Brantly is a backup at worst simply because he has above average defense and catchers are shit nowadays. Don't know much/anything about Flynn but he's big and like someone said is essentially a Rasmussen replacement. I have my doubts about Turner but again, I don't even think we really traded all that much, so I'm ecstatic to get a guy with his projections for a pitcher who was going to walk and a slightly above-average 2B.

Also kind of lost in this is that it guarantees we get that extra draft pick - I was almost positive we'd trade ours away in a deal as a sweetener - and now we're going to be forced into taking Detroit's pick. To me, since I was expecting to have them trade it for nothing, it's almost like getting an extra prospect in the deal.

[Anonymous]

JJ also gained several MPH on his fastball. That's not common, normally they lose velo. Not a fair comp at all.

And Turner's at only a 6 K/9 this year

Still, you have to love the projection on him

True. I was looking at his overall career, though. He was about average.

Is there a better comparison than JJ?

[emkayseven]

True. I was looking at his overall career, though. He was about average.

Is there a better comparison than JJ?

Rick Porcello -.-

[MiamiHomer]

Tom Green @Tomas_Verde
Larry Beinfest said Jacob Turner will go to Triple-A for now, but expects him to be a part of team's rotation. They see him as ML ready

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[Swifty]

I'm guardedly optimistic about this trade. Biggest fear is that it's Detroit, which is completely unfounded, I realize.

[tr305]

What kind of numbers is Anibal looking at in the off season ?

[HUGG]

I'm a big, big fan of this trade.

As for anyone else on the team, I don't think it's as simple as "we should keep them" or "we should trade them." It'd be kinda stupid not to see what we can get for JJ or Hanley. But don't trade them just to trade them.

[tr305]

What's great is JJ is improving his stock right before our eyes. This is a great start in more way than one.