Season Super Game Thread

[tjfla]

Happ to NYY for Drury and maybe more

Takes NYY off of Straily probably

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I actually thought he was someone else just based off the name but holiday will still get dealt to a contender who needs a decent backup catcher. Just like Ellis should have been dealt last year. Not sure why you continue to need to harp on the point that we all understand you to have about holidays value. Veteran backup catchers can get you a fringe prospect. No one is claiming that we will get anything of significant value for him

and ya he would have and still might(NYY/Pitt/Milw/Col still looking) bring back some low level prospect (22 yr old in A Ball) and IFA cash

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Chris Paddack is lifted to #5 for San Diego. So sad ... He would be Miami's #1 by a mile.

Might be on his way to TB. SD is thinking about Mejia and an arm like Morejon/Quantrill/Paddock for Archer

[Nick]

Maybe a team would give up a fringe prospect or $100k in IFA money or something along those lines to have Holaday be their 3rd catcher for September when the roster expands, but he's not going to be a backup on a potential playoff team.

[fish16]

I legitimately do not understand the love for Monte Harrison. This isn't just a Marlins thing either. He wasn't even a Brewers top prospect heading into 2017 and yet he jumps onto the MLB top 100 after a good but not great season?

I understand he is supposed to be some great defensive outfielder. But those are not that uncommon. The problem is his bat is horrid. He has OK power and thats it.

He has better than ok power. He’s a huge exit velocity guy. He just has one major hole in his game with the k’s but if he can manage that, which granted is an enormous if at this point, he will be a very good player for a long time

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Maybe a team would give up a fringe prospect or $100k in IFA money or something along those lines to have Holaday be their 3rd catcher for September when the roster expands, but he's not going to be a backup on a potential playoff team.

Possibly he would, but ya that’s all we’re talking in terms of moving him. Can’t hurt no matter what you get so long as you get something just because he obviously isn’t in the teams future plans

[tjfla]

If we beat up on Washington this weekend they are reportedly going to start selling off FA's

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Maybe a team would give up a fringe prospect or $100k in IFA money or something along those lines to have Holaday be their 3rd catcher for September when the roster expands, but he's not going to be a backup on a potential playoff team.

Better than NOTHING

[Todd]

I think he impressed a ton a people in the AFL last off-season. Also, it's worth noting that he's a very effective base-stealer. That being said obviously his whole swing needs re-tooled because in an era where strikeouts are going through the roof his strikeout #'s are still shockingly high.

That entire Milwaukee trade was buying high on prospects with tons of question marks.

Brinson and Harrison are both good defensive outfielders who likewise have both always struggled to hit.

Diaz has OK but not spectacular power for a MIF but is apparently stinks defensively at both spots. He has a nice BB tool but that is about thats about it. He too strikes out a ton and can't hit for average.

Yamamoto might be a nice back of the rotation or pen arm.

There are questions marks with any prospect but this more than most screams "trading for hype" instead of prospects that project to be MLB regulars.

Combined with them just giving Ozuna to the Cardinals and I am just sad they traded Yelich and Ozuna and got so little in return.

[Lee Stone]

Sympathy to Pablo Lopez for garnering no respect. Yankee farmhand Justus Sheffield is ranked 28th overall. Same age as Lopez, but not as good this year.

[fish16]

Ozuna is so overrated by marlins fans. Marlins sold high on him exactly at the right time. Guy had one great season, he isn’t a great player. He is a good and very inconsistent OF. It was obvious to me that he was the player he was for every year of his career aside from last year and not the player that he was last year. Time will still tell based on how the guys we got pan out, but I’m quite tired of hearing him talked about as if he is some perennial all star outfielder

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Sympathy to Pablo Lopez for garnering no respect. Yankee farmhand Justus Sheffield is ranked 28th overall. Same age as Lopez, but not as good this year.

Will you ever understand that there is much more that goes into rankings other than pure minor league results or no?

[Lee Stone]

That entire Milwaukee trade was buying high on prospects with tons of question marks.

Brinson and Harrison are both good defensive outfielders who likewise have both always struggled to hit.

Diaz has OK but not spectacular power for a MIF but is apparently stinks defensively at both spots. He has a nice BB tool but that is about thats about it. He too strikes out a ton and can't hit for average.

Yamamoto might be a nice back of the rotation or pen arm.

There are questions marks with any prospect but this more than most screams "trading for hype" instead of prospects that project to be MLB regulars.

Combined with them just giving Ozuna to the Cardinals and I am just sad they traded Yelich and Ozuna and got so little in return.

Cards apparently want to deal Ozuna. I'd gladly give up Alcantara, Gallen and Sierra to bring him back.

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Ozuna is so overrated by marlins fans. Marlins sold high on him exactly at the right time. Guy had one great season, he isn’t a great player. He is a good and very inconsistent OF. It was obvious to me that he was the player he was for every year of his career aside from last year and not the player that he was last year. Time will still tell based on how the guys we got pan out, but I’m quite tired of hearing him talked about as if he is some perennial all star outfielder

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Will you ever understand that there is much more that goes into rankings other than pure minor league results or no?

I will never understand the propensity of some forum participants to denigrate others.

[Nick]

That entire Milwaukee trade was buying high on prospects with tons of question marks.

Brinson and Harrison are both good defensive outfielders who likewise have both always struggled to hit.

Diaz has OK but not spectacular power for a MIF but is apparently stinks defensively at both spots. He has a nice BB tool but that is about thats about it. He too strikes out a ton and can't hit for average.

Yamamoto might be a nice back of the rotation or pen arm.

There are questions marks with any prospect but this more than most screams "trading for hype" instead of prospects that project to be MLB regulars.

Combined with them just giving Ozuna to the Cardinals and I am just sad they traded Yelich and Ozuna and got so little in return.

I think Diaz is a Dietrich clone, hopefully he can be a little better defensively at 2nd base than Dietrich was. We'll see.

[Ralph]

Ozuna has been 2015 Ozuna. They actually sold high there. Though they could have gotten better.

[Nick]

If his upcoming Free Agency wasn't a factor, I think I'd agree with Lee Stone and would do that deal despite Ozuna's struggles this year. It's still a poor return even if we sold high.

[fish16]

Dietrich is a super interesting Diaz comparison that I hadn’t thought of. I think Diaz is a more impactful bat though but a Dietrich floor is certainly a good comparison to me

[Lee Stone]

I think Diaz is a Dietrich clone, hopefully he can be a little better defensively at 2nd base than Dietrich was. We'll see.

Both are limited by a "full on pull the ball" mentality as well.

[lou]

I like the MLB list thinks Banfield is around Diaz in value. That's great if that happens.

Rest of the list is pretty understandable. I don't see an issue with it. Maybe some of those guys shouldn't have FV55/FV50 grades, but it's somewhat reasonable.

Pablo is a 4/5 SP or a longman. You don't get a good grade unless you can project to be a killer.

[Todd]

They definitely could have gotten more. Sierra is a 6th outfielder and cant hit at all. While Alcantara has added to his repertoire since joining the Marlins(he was a 1 pitch guy when they acquired him) he is still mostly just a guy with a powerful but inconsistent fastball and no control.

I honestly dont even know what Gallen projects as.