Season Super Game Thread

[Erick]

This is kind of a weird take to me. Yes, Barraclough has run into some trouble this month, but if his numbers as they stand today count as "regression," hell, I'll take it. I don't think anybody expected him to keep up the pace he was at.

And the "building around him" thing...I'm not really sure what that's a reference to. The fact that we're asking a lot for him in a trade? I really don't have a problem with that. I'd rather that than give him away at the deadline just to get rid of him.

I just thought the article about Mike Hill valuing club control the other day was really funny considering this is the same team that traded Christian Yelich in the offseason. But now they’re being strict with relievers like Barraclough who will more than likely never have numbers like this again.

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Ya I think thats an overreaction for now on Barraclough. There is no rush to trade him 2 weeks before the deadline as you wouldnt get a teams best offer yet in all likelihood. His track record suggests he's not headed for a jorge julio style blow up in the 2 weeks prior to the deadline.

They do need to trade him though.

It’s nothing against Barraclough. I think he’s a good reliever.

But if they don’t trade him this month, it’ll tell me a lot about this new front office.

[fish16]

It wouldnt make sense to go out and say "ya we are going to trade him because relievers arent hard to find." If they dont trade him at the deadline then this is a very valid complaint, but until then its way too early to criticize them for not trading him.

[Namaste]

Urena is hot garbage

[fish16]

He's struggled a little in this game but I wouldnt trade Urena. He'll never be a top of the rotation guy but unless you get great value he is worth more to the team than he would be in a trade. he's got 3 years of team control left and he is a very solid rotation piece despite not being spectacular.

[Namaste]

Jose Urena is a very solid #5 rotation piece. He has proven time and time again that he is incapable of staying away from the big inning.

[fish16]

Jose Urena is a very solid #5 rotation piece. He has proven time and time again that he is incapable of staying away from the big inning.

he's a #4 and borderline #3 if he improves a little more to me. His K rate is much higher and BB rate is much lower this year. IF he can improve a little more he is definitely a long term rotation piece. He needs to go deeper into games though and avoid the big innings more often, which are kind of related issues.

[geemoney]

I just thought the article about Mike Hill valuing club control the other day was really funny considering this is the same team that traded Christian Yelich in the offseason. But now they’re being strict with relievers like Barraclough who will more than likely never have numbers like this again.

It’s nothing against Barraclough. I think he’s a good reliever.

But if they don’t trade him this month, it’ll tell me a lot about this new front office.

The thing with Barraclough though, based on his past and his skillset, is he isn't likely to fall off a cliff like a Brad Zeigler, who everyone knew was pitching over his head at times last season. So while Barraclough's value will never be this high, I don't think it's going to fall dramatically, either. If they want to ask for the moon for him at this deadline, I'm all for it. I still think he'll be in demand in the winter or even at the next trade deadline (I think relievers generally have a higher value at the deadline than over the winter). Granted, he'll be making more money next year and will be up for arbitration next year. But I won't automatically fault the FO for holding on to him if they don't feel the value is there in a trade.

[fish16]

4 games under .500 since JT came back in mid april. Everyone acting as if this team is some historically bad team fell for the rhetoric surrounding ownership/the team rather than looking at the actual roster. This was never a historically bad team.

[Erick]

They are 36-40 in their last 76. Maddawg thought they’d win 35 in 162. We did it.

[Namaste]

The Marlins have the lowest Run Differential (by 23 runs) in the National League.

[fish16]

The Marlins have the lowest Run Differential (by 23 runs) in the National League.

damn you and your darn facts! let me feel subpar but not terrible about my team for a day.

On a side note, just checking the standings and the AL central has to be one of the worst divisions of all time right? Indians have one of the easier paths to the playoffs ever right? White Sox, Royals, and Tigers are all just untalented major league rosters and the twins have had a fairly disastrous all around season coming off last year.

[Nick]

This is where we are as a franchise, debates about whether we are bad or if we're really bad.

[sports24/7]

Jon Heyman is saying the Nats are desperate, and may look to come back to the table on Realmuto. He said some people think they might be willing to include Robles this time around.

https://fancredsports.com/articles/j...-realmuto-incl

[Ralph]

If they can somehow get Robles and Kieboom I’d feel very very comfortable about this teams future.

[Erick]

I would rather keep Realmuto.