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  • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
    im not sure if arraez is done for the week, but by the looks of it i would be very surprised if he plays in the next few games. The stupid lights show when scott came in caused him to tweak the ankle even worse, and he got on the plane to go to NY last night wearing a walking boot. if he does play, it needs to be at DH. cant risk him getting even more hurt. unfortunately that means Soler and Bell in the field, but those are the cards we've been dealt.
    They play 2 lefty starters next three so its not the worst days off for him FWIW.

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    • Originally posted by lou View Post

      They play 2 lefty starters next three so its not the worst days off for him FWIW.
      he's hitting .326 with a .760 OPS against lefties this year and there are 6 critical games left. It is absolutely the worst days off for him. Also, we look to be going with 2 bullpen games this series and then 3 legit starters for the pittsburgh series. not having arraez in a series where we will desperately need to score some runs, is absolutely an awful scenario. Baseball is weird so we may win anyways, but to act like missing the absolute best player all year for us in some of the last 6 games of the season is some serious coping.

      we are an absolute mash unit right now. Guys we thought would be playing a role this year who are either injured now or never played this year include Sandy, Eury, Rogers, Arraez is banged up, burger appears to be banged up, Meyer never came back, Sixto might not be a real human being, Barnes is out for the year, Avisail Garcia barely played which might be a good thing, brazoban is out, cueto missed most of the year and has been awful in his time actually healthy, jazz has missed a huge part of the year. If we make the playoffs at this point that would be an unbelievable feat.
      Last edited by fish16; 09-25-2023, 02:16 PM.

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      • Originally posted by fish16 View Post

        obviously the exit velocity needs to improve and he needs to get stronger, but there is still a role like you said given the way he affects the game in other ways. The biggest thing for him is to become an elite or above average defensive 2b. If he can do that with his clear incredible plate discipline, his speed on the basepaths, and the way that he appears to be just one of those guys like arraez who is a pure hitter, there is a role here for him. I think he will do it, he was showing that ability in AAA. Last year he had 5 hr's in AAA, and this year he had 7. In his career the 3 years prior, he had 6 total. He will never be like Arraez where i think a small swing tweak could get him to 15-20 hr's a year, but i think there is enough power to be a super high OBP leadoff guy with limited power but enough pure hitting ability and speed to be an every day guy. Time will tell, but i think there is more than enough talent and game outside of the subpar power where he can be a 2-3 WAR guy as a starter at 2b. I think he needs to be an everyday guy at 2b next year leading off with Arraez right behind him, and Bell at DH. I imagine next year the lineup should be (barring a huge addition at SS and C), some form of Edwards, Arraez, Bell, Jazz, Burger. That's a really interesting group of pure hitters, some speed, and big time power. They really need to get a SS who can hit 20-25 hr's though.
        They are going to give Soler a qualifying offer IMO and he will likely take it just as Joc was forced into the 1 year deal. Basically, Burger-?-Arraez-Bell, with DLC-Jazz-Sanchez the predominant OF, and Soler the DH as the starting lineup, and that'll easily give Berti and Edwards 100 starts each all over the place. Edwards will be in the OF a lot with this set up and ideally shift to 2B in 2025 when Bell and maybe Soler are gone (could see a 2 year deal for him).

        And yes on the SS. Adames Adames Adames. Even if Sandy is hurt, go get him and conjure up some SP in free agency.

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        • and not only are we banged up, we can trust like 2-3 guys out of the bullpen right now. Okert has been awful in the 2nd half, puk's overall numbers are fine but he cant stop giving up crucial homers, hoeing has been mediocre, robertson has been a trainwreck. it's really just been Nardi and Scott who have carried us, and i guess moore has overall good numbers for the year, but it's tough to ask him to come in and pitch huge innings in a playoff chase after just getting here. This is really just an absolute trainwreck of a staff right now being carried by like 5 of 12 guys.

          Im sure he will break my heart at some point soon, but robertson has been better in september overall, though way too many walks. We desperately need him to be solid this last week.

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          • if we make the playoffs, it will be on the backs of the offense. the pitching has fallen apart, but we as a team have a .786 OPS in september, and that's with Wendle and Stallings bringing that way down. Going to need huge weeks from Jazz, Burger, Bell, and Soler. We need sanchez to get hot again too, the slugging has disappeared. jazz needs to pick it up though, the 2 days with grand slams were great, but he's got 28 k's in 76 ab's.

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            • Originally posted by fish16 View Post

              well i was at the dolphins game so i didnt see the game but apparently they didnt do it yesterday so i believe a message was relayed to chill.
              I don't have a problem with them adding the color lights flashing when the guy comes in, but don't go completely dark.

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              • Yankees fucking us again

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                • The Athletic just put an article up, and confirmed we have the tiebreaker against all of the Phillies, D'backs, Cubs, and Reds.



                  Hopefully we perform well enough that we don't have to worry about ties, but if we at least tie one of the latter 3 teams, we'll be in.



                  Fingers crossed!

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                  • Originally posted by Namaste View Post
                    Yankees fucking us again
                    D'backs up 4-3 B8. But Yankees have 1st/2nd no outs.

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                    • Originally posted by rmc523 View Post

                      D'backs up 4-3 B8. But Yankees have 1st/2nd no outs.
                      Bases loaded no outs now

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                      • Originally posted by rmc523 View Post

                        Bases loaded no outs now
                        We need the DBacks to lose this game big time

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                        • Yankees now lead 5-4. men on 1st/2nd, 2 outs

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                          • 6-4 Yankees now, 2 on still.

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                            • 6-4 Yankees now going into the top of the 9th.

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                              • Yankees unfucked us for now

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