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  • Gonna go the entire fucking year not making a single effort to improve at catcher or shortstop. This team deserves to miss the playoffs

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    • This has been an unbelievable game. I think Sandy have up one hard hit baseball. Just insane bad luck and a devastating bad play by Arraez on a ball that was an easy out for Soler.

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      • Originally posted by Namaste View Post
        This has been an unbelievable game. I think Sandy have up one hard hit baseball. Just insane bad luck and a devastating bad play by Arraez on a ball that was an easy out for Soler.
        You don’t lose by 6 due to bad luck. They are better. They have 5 more hits and walks than us, have struck out less than us, and we have an error. There is a reason they kick our ass every year. They are by far a much better run organization

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        • Soler injured now if you had any doubts about whether this team was dead.

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          • Dolphins season starting soon! Couldn’t come at a more perfect time

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            • Doesn’t fucking matter anymore anyways but you can’t tell me this team wouldn’t be better by dfa’ing Lopez, stallings wendle, gurriel, and just claiming giolito, Lopez, renfroe/grichuk, and literally any other catcher or ss that comes on waivers.

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              • I’m fine with the Lopez trade, it was a fine attempt, but just dfa the guy. It’s fine, he stinks, cut bait and move on. Don’t act like because he has the year of control next year anything else will be different in spring training. They should non tender him in the winter anyways, dfa him and claim a guy and just move on. He’s an awful pitcher, and he always has been outside of 2 months last year

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                • Originally posted by fish16 View Post

                  You don’t lose by 6 due to bad luck. They are better. They have 5 more hits and walks than us, have struck out less than us, and we have an error. There is a reason they kick our ass every year. They are by far a much better run organization

                  You have no fucking idea what you’re talking about. There’s no way you watched all of the first 6 innings.

                  I watched every pitch of Sandy’s outing. He was ridiculously unlucky. Fuck off with your bullshit.

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                  • Originally posted by Namaste View Post


                    You have no fucking idea what you’re talking about. There’s no way you watched all of the first 6 innings.

                    I watched every pitch of Sandy’s outing. He was ridiculously unlucky. Fuck off with your bullshit.
                    I watched every pitch. Kiss my ass, sandys xfip last night was 5.78. By that measure it was his 4th worst start of the year. He wasn’t good last night. Or is that stat not good for you anymore?
                    Last edited by fish16; 08-30-2023, 06:35 AM.

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                    • Only 3 teams in all of baseball over the last 8 years have a lower Win % than the Marlins

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                      • Originally posted by Namaste View Post
                        Only 3 teams in all of baseball over the last 8 years have a lower Win % than the Marlins
                        We’ve just been unlucky

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                        • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                          Angels are putting pretty much every guy they’ve gotten this year on waivers in a pure salary dump. Giolito, Lopez, grichuk among others. They better fucking make a claim on giolito and Lopez. All it takes is a waiver claim and to pay the last month of their salary. Let’s see how truly cheap Bruce is
                          100% agree. Do it Kim. show the team you haven't given up yet.

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                          • Originally posted by Namaste View Post


                            You have no fucking idea what you’re talking about. There’s no way you watched all of the first 6 innings.

                            I watched every pitch of Sandy’s outing. He was ridiculously unlucky. Fuck off with your bullshit.
                            what does it say about your ability to understand what you're watching that you watched every pitch and thought he was unlucky and it turns out he had close to a 6 XFIP last night? perhaps you're the one that has "no fucking idea what you're talking about"?

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                            • Originally posted by rmc523 View Post

                              100% agree. Do it Kim. show the team you haven't given up yet.
                              I like the idea of claiming Bader. Let him see the organization for a month as he is a top 5 guy this offseason they should sign IMO. He's perfect as a guy who assaults lefties and plays defense against righties so he's not a massive liability, etc. I imagine there is some Skip ties also with St. Louis?

                              If they could nab Bader on an immediate extension and keep Soler on a QO or 2 year deal they could do this offensively:

                              ____, Fortes
                              Bell
                              Arraez, Berti
                              ____, Amaya
                              Burger
                              Jazz, Soler
                              Bader, Edwards
                              Sanchez

                              AAA - Banfield, Johnston, Nasim, Myers, Burdick, Mesa Jr.


                              The guy missing here is DLC who I am imagining is packaged with some arm and gets a comparable SS/IF type in this scenario. Maybe not a premium guy, but I think Berti, Amaya, and someone new can handle it, and Edwards will play all over. There is some OF starved team (Cleveland?) that probably have a FV45 play-now SS guy they can move for DLC and something, etc.

                              This is like a $115m team with Bader and Soler so it's getting expensive, so they'd have to keep all the main pitching and could do this:

                              Sandy, Eury, Cabrera
                              Luzardo, Garrett, Rogers
                              Chargois, _____ (pick a guy below)
                              Scott, Puk, Okert, Nardi, Weathers

                              AAA - Brazoban, Soriano, Maldonado, Hoeing, and if healthy, Meyer, Bender, and Sixto + likely a RuleV right hander again


                              I think this is a pretty good team on paper and the pitching would sort itself out with Meyer coming back strong eventually and some of those other RP types are could replacement arms. This would get them to the deadline with another Amaya or better SS and literally anything at catcher. I do think Fortes will be better next year FWIW even if more of a backup type it seems.



                              Anyways, all in on Bader to help now and later. The Angels guys would be fun too, but I'm just thinking longterm here in addition to an immediate upgrade.

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                              • Originally posted by fish16 View Post

                                what does it say about your ability to understand what you're watching that you watched every pitch and thought he was unlucky and it turns out he had close to a 6 XFIP last night? perhaps you're the one that has "no fucking idea what you're talking about"?
                                You guys can both be right there. It could be a lot of soft contact bloops, which also lead to a high xFIP because they are high probability bloops. It's a SSS. Sandy has not been great this year, but he is also underachieving a bit probably.

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