2023 Game Thread

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57-105 and that's staying healthy

Can I get odds and happy to pick a third party escrow to deposit bets

[rmc523]

Can I get odds and happy to pick a third party escrow to deposit bets

Basically everything went wrong last year, and he thinks we'll be WORSE this year? lol

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the idea that they will be worse than last year absent a huge swath of crippling injuries is laughable. Look what it took to be that bad last year- Jazz missed 102 games. Soler missed 90 games. Garcia missed 64 games and had a horrific season. aguilar predictably fell off the map. Stallings had the worst season of his career. Cooper missed 43 games. Anderson missed 64 games. Rojas was playing with a fucked up wrist. Luzardo missed several months. Cabrera missed several months. About the only thing that went right last year was sandy staying healthy. This will be a high 70's, low 80s win team, with hopefully upside if they make the move they should for another bat and another bullpen arm.

Arraez and segura and health are going to help this offense a lot. They wont be a great offense obviously, but their additions will make the team better, plus garcia cant be as bad as he was last year. As long as they dont have huge swaths of injuries, this team will be better than last year. The question is how much better and if they do anything to the roster to make it better.

The bullpen is better, but they need 1 more right set up guy and they need to get rid of tanner scott. he should not be anywhere near close games. I dont care what the advanced analytics say about his potential if he learns control, he's not going to do it. It is painfully obvious every time he comes into a game that he is the renyel pinto of this generation of marlins teams. The guy has no fucking clue where he is throwing the ball.

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jj bleday couldnt even make the a's opening day roster btw. That's going to be a really good trade.

[rmc523]

Reynolds update:

The conceptual issue is indeed an opt-out clause, reports Rob Biertempfel of The Athletic. He adds that the two sides have come to an agreement around $106MM on the guarantee, roughly the middle point between the previous asking prices, but that Reynolds and his reps want an opt-out that the Pirates appear unwilling to give thus far.

So they've agreed on an amount......it may happen and he may be off the table altogether.

[lou]

Reynolds update:

The conceptual issue is indeed an opt-out clause, reports Rob Biertempfel of The Athletic. He adds that the two sides have come to an agreement around $106MM on the guarantee, roughly the middle point between the previous asking prices, but that Reynolds and his reps want an opt-out that the Pirates appear unwilling to give thus far.

So they've agreed on an amount......it may happen and he may be off the table altogether.

That’s gotta be 6 years so like $10-$16-$20x4. That’s not a bad deal for either of them. I think the last time I thought about this was like 7/$115-125m so the Pirates doing good to lower a bit by a year. It does seem like a middle point from a reasonable Reynolds offer.

Opt out is tough here. Maybe they give him one after 3 years but he’s not Machado. Trying to hedge on getting a Nimmo deal next I imagine.

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gurriel, fortes, and berti all starting against the lefty tonight. No Sanchez or DLC at all. Soler is in LF with cooper at DH. Berti hitting 9th though with Arraez and segura still at the top. Top 6 is unchanged from yesterday i believe.

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the minor league teams are starting to come together. I guess they go from the higher levels on down in terms of filling out the rosters. AAA has Edwards, Amaya, Burdick, Groshans, Leblanc, Jerar. Rotation is pretty terrible because they are giving Eury a few AA starts to begin the year. They have castano, Smeltzer, Hoeing, and maybe will stewart if he isnt a full time reliever.

AA has both Mesa's, catchers Banfield and Mcintosh, Nasim Nunez, and im guessing Conine. Rotation is ridiculous- Eury, Fulton, and eventually Eder plus Mccambley and MD johnson.

A+ has Mack, Berry, Watson, Cappe, and Morissette.

Lower minors pitching depth is bad. We desperately need 2-3 of these guys to break out this year

AAA and AA should have good bullpens. Soriano and simpson are in AAA, Nardi will likely be back down there once okert comes back, maybe sixto gets his shit together and is in AAA at some point. Sean reynolds has some potential and he looks to be AA's closer.

[lou]

That’s gotta be 6 years so like $10-$16-$20x4. That’s not a bad deal for either of them. I think the last time I thought about this was like 7/$115-125m so the Pirates doing good to lower a bit by a year. It does seem like a middle point from a reasonable Reynolds offer.

Opt out is tough here. Maybe they give him one after 3 years but he’s not Machado. Trying to hedge on getting a Nimmo deal next I imagine.

Just saw it is 8/$106m

I 100% support Reynolds demanding an opt-out for something that below market value. The Marlins may in fact not be the cheapest team in baseball. That is a pathetic deal for Pittsburgh.

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Luzardo is throwing some gas here in the first inning. Has touched 98

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Arraez is tremendous

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Soler with a tremendous catch in right field and a homer right after! Good soler? We crushed the ball in the first and got unlucky. Can’t get unlucky when it’s in the stands in right

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Holy shit luzardo looks ridiculous tonight. Unbelievable so far. He sandy and Cabrera are going to have enormous years

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Christ Cooper hurt his hand. Staying in but this guy has to be the most unlucky player I’ve ever seen

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Watching this team manage to somehow NOT score a run in the 5th inning was wild