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  • Originally posted by Namaste View Post
    27.2% to be a Wild Card team. They have to play really well against the Nats.
    .625+ ball here on out probably. Which means today forward, they have to play like a top 5 team in baseball until the end. That'll get them to 87 which might be enough.

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    • Originally posted by lou View Post

      .625+ ball here on out probably. Which means today forward, they have to play like a top 5 team in baseball until the end. That'll get them to 87 which might be enough.
      Sucks that they squandered the nice lead they had and they only had to play .500.

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      • Originally posted by rmc523 View Post

        Sucks that they squandered the nice lead they had and they only had to play .500.
        At the same time they have been unbelievably lucky, so we should be happy they are here. Another 3-4 wins would be enormous right now though.

        A nice 9 game win streak (7 Nationals, 2 Rays-Sandy and Luzardo) is what the doctor has ordered IMO.

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        • Top of the order coming out strong with 4 straight popups against this guy.

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          • This team is cooked. Deservedly so for running out stallings fortes and wendle all year long without even trying to improve

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            • This is the most Marlins game ever so far

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              • Another day, another series of awful bullpen usage from skip. Jorge Lopez sucks, why does he continue to be used in anything other than blow outs

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                • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                  Jorge Lopez sucks
                  One of the worst trades of this regime.

                  Dylan Floro has a 3.20 xFIP. We didn’t know how good we had it with him.

                  Lopez’s xFIP is 4.97

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                  • Originally posted by Namaste View Post

                    One of the worst trades of this regime.

                    Dylan Floro has a 3.20 xFIP. We didn’t know how good we had it with him.

                    Lopez’s xFIP is 4.97
                    Floro was awful from may on so it’s not losing him so much as it is Lopez just being completely terrible. I don’t really care what floros fip was, he got hit around every time he came in after a good April, Lopez just can’t throw strikes. I’m fine with the move because it had a chance to pay off, but for fucks sake can we stop using him so often and in games that aren’t out of hand? Skip refuses to use Scott and nardi in almost any other situation other than we are up in the 7th or 8th. If we go down by anything more than 1 run, it’s the retreads in the bullpen coming in without fail. We’re in a playoff chase, he needs to start managing the bullpen as such

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                    • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                      I don’t really care what floros fip was
                      Yeah man if you want to use advanced stats only when it’s convenient that works for me. You do you.

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                      • Originally posted by Namaste View Post

                        Yeah man if you want to use advanced stats only when it’s convenient that works for me. You do you.
                        or you can trust what you're watching. He was great in april. In May his whip was 1.85, in june it was 1.95, and in july it was 1.45. In May his BAA was .333, in June it was .414, and in july it was .302. This year total against lefties he has a 2.02 WHIP and a .369 BAA. His FIP looks good because he has a high BABIP. He has a high BABIP because he doesnt throw hard and he couldnt consistently throw strikes this year and got hit around harder than he has in his career.

                        His hard hit % is higher than it has been in any other year. And he's gotten even worse in minnesota. He has a 9 ERA with 14 hits against and 3 walks in 7 innings since going there. Let me guess, those 2 hits per inning were mostly luck right? From may until he was traded, he had 7 clean appearances without a walk or hit out of 31 appearances.

                        Floro's numbers were worse the higher leverage the situation was. In low leverage situations his OPS against was .676. In high leverage situations his ops against is 839. Since May total, hitters are hitting .359 with an .859 OPS. With the marlins this year, he had given up as many hits as he had all of last year but in 14 fewer innings.

                        Here's some advanced stats from baseball savant, his fastball velocity is in the 36th percentile, his spin rate is in the 20th percentile, his expected batting average is in the 28th percentile, and his whiff % is in the 46th percentile. He has always had a mediocre profile for a reliever as a guy who doesnt throw hard and pitches to contact.

                        You can try whatever revisionist history you want to use with stats that match your narrative, but floro has been awful this year. If you want to make the argument that floro was good for us you can feel free if that makes you feel better, but he hasnt just been unlucky, he's been bad. Doesnt make Lopez good because he sucks too.
                        Last edited by fish16; 08-26-2023, 02:09 PM.

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                        • Burger for CF. Turn him into Lance Berkman 2.0. Jazz back to 2B.
                          Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon Muff
                          Logan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
                          Noah Perio
                          Jupiter
                          39 AB
                          15 H
                          0 2B
                          0 3B
                          0 HR
                          0 BB
                          .385/.385/.385

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                          • https://youtu.be/pct1uEhAqBQ?si=fYxNjJ-2WQFDFXWe

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                            • Lead off double from one of the worst hitters in baseball and he never touches third base.

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                              • 2 out double for the Nationals

                                1-0 Nationals

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