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  • We’re seeing something special from Arraez this season.

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    • people are going to look at the overall run differential and say this team has some regression coming, but that run differential was so negatively impacted by a few early-season blowouts that it is really not representative of what this team has been for the better part of 2/3 or 75% of the season. I don't know what the run differential bottomed out at, but i think it was in the negative 60s. Since that point and really since Eury came up, that run differential has been one of the best in the league.

      Good to see a decent crowd yesterday with the hurricane like conditions prior to game time. Hopefully that continues. This team is not only good, but it's fun to watch as well.

      That game last night and more importantly that outing by Hoeing was enormous. I was expecting them to lose, but to win that with Eury and Sandy the last 2 games of this series before 4 against a bad pirates team, we have a chance to really have an even better week than expected. I was hoping for 4-3 or better, now im hoping for 5-2 and even 6-1.

      Go get 2 bats and a set up guy to fortify the pen kim. These guys deserve it.

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      • jazz is also starting a rehab stint this week so we should have him back for at least a little bit before the all star break. If he can perform to his talent level that will make a big difference as well.

        Soler has not only been great, but it looks like his plate discipline is better than it has ever been in his career. His ab's are really good and just so much better than last year. Even when he doesnt get a hit the at bats are just really quality at bats. His best year was that ridiculous year with the royals and he is right on pace for the same type of year this year. That year his slash line was .265/.354/.569/.922 with 48 hr's and 117 rbi's. This year he is at .260/ .363 (career high)/.560/.923 and he is on pace for 47 hr's and 100 rbi. Just pray he stays healthy because he has been almost as invaluable as Arraez.

        We obviously need a long term upgrade at SS, but wendle deserves some love as well. Last 30 days he is hitting .328 with an .854 OPS.

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        • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
          12,226 attendance tonight. Probably one of the highest they’ve had for a weekday against a non premium opponent in a while. I hope they keep this up. I desperately want to see this team start bringing some major crowds out. It’s such a great loud atmosphere when it’s packed. Can’t remember the last time the upper deck was even open for a normal game
          I made an attendance chart for last year, and just updated it last night to compare last year to this year through 35 home games. Overall, attendance through this point is only up about 3k.....BUT for most nights, attendance has been up by a few hundred to a thousand each night......the early overall numbers are skewed down because of a random massive single game spike for an early Seattle series last year (it was like 29k), and a Mets series that happened this time last year. We have a few Mets series AND a weekend Yankees series later in the year that are sure to bump up numbers.

          I'll see if I can post the line graph - photos aren't overly user friendly on this site.

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          • Let's try this...


            Well, it uploaded tiny for some reason, but you can kind of make it out (or try to zoom in)....blue was last year, orange is this year....where the orange ends is now....you can see that for most games, attendance is higher this year, even considering different opponents.

            That massive spike on the left for game 9 was that random Seattle 29k game. And last year vs right now was a Mets series vs. this year's A's/Royals.

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            Last edited by rmc523; 06-20-2023, 08:37 AM.

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            • Originally posted by rmc523 View Post

              I made an attendance chart for last year, and just updated it last night to compare last year to this year through 35 home games. Overall, attendance through this point is only up about 3k.....BUT for most nights, attendance has been up by a few hundred to a thousand each night......the early overall numbers are skewed down because of a random massive single game spike for an early Seattle series last year (it was like 29k), and a Mets series that happened this time last year. We have a few Mets series AND a weekend Yankees series later in the year that are sure to bump up numbers.

              I'll see if I can post the line graph - photos aren't overly user friendly on this site.
              I think if they keep this up we will see bigger crowds from now until the end of the year. I dont expect there to be a meaningful difference at this point, but last nights crowd while still small was encouraging. 12,200 on a monday against the blue jays is a pretty good indication that crowds are going to start getting bigger

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              • Originally posted by fish16 View Post

                I think if they keep this up we will see bigger crowds from now until the end of the year. I dont expect there to be a meaningful difference at this point, but last nights crowd while still small was encouraging. 12,200 on a monday against the blue jays is a pretty good indication that crowds are going to start getting bigger
                Absolutely. It would be up quite a bit more through this point without that Seattle spike (that alone was roughly a -10k swing for this year).

                I definitely am interested to see final overall totals, and also the trend line from beginning to end of year and see if more folks come out as the season draws down and as they stay in contention.

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                • here are the other monday night games this year and the attendance:

                  Kansas City June 5- 7,232
                  San Fran April 17th- 8,744
                  Minnesota April 3- 8898

                  Here are some tuesday Numbers
                  April 4 Minnesota- 10,668
                  San Fran April 18- 8783
                  Atlanta May 2- 8826
                  Washington May 16- 8811
                  San Diego May 30- 11930
                  Kansas City June 6- 7342

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                  • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                    here are the other monday night games this year and the attendance:

                    Kansas City June 5- 7,232
                    San Fran April 17th- 8,744
                    Minnesota April 3- 8898

                    Here are some tuesday Numbers
                    April 4 Minnesota- 10,668
                    San Fran April 18- 8783
                    Atlanta May 2- 8826
                    Washington May 16- 8811
                    San Diego May 30- 11930
                    Kansas City June 6- 7342
                    Yeah, I have breakdowns for all nights of the week too - if i can figure out how to post bigger/more legible versions, I'll post them. I don't have the file with me.

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                    • Originally posted by rmc523 View Post
                      Let's try this...


                      Well, it uploaded tiny for some reason, but you can kind of make it out (or try to zoom in)....blue was last year, orange is this year....where the orange ends is now....you can see that for most games, attendance is higher this year, even considering different opponents.

                      That massive spike on the left for game 9 was that random Seattle 29k game. And last year vs right now was a Mets series vs. this year's A's/Royals.

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                      What was going on with that Seattle game? I don't even remember.

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                      • Originally posted by Nick View Post

                        What was going on with that Seattle game? I don't even remember.
                        No idea. It was Saturday, April 30th. They don't even have any special promo listed on the schedule......and aside from it being Saturday, it was the second game of the series too, so not like first day of a big opponent like the Yankees. It was Ray v. Luzardo, so not some Cy young v Cy young mega matchup.

                        The series attendance was:
                        game 1 - Fri 4/29: 9,963
                        game 2 - Sat 4/30: 29,010
                        game 3 - Sun 5/1: 16,741

                        It was very random and an outlier clearly.

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                        • Originally posted by Nick View Post
                          We’re seeing something special from Arraez this season.
                          .417 BABIP, everything is sneaking through or falling. It's pretty great. Even normalizing his stats and he's probably hitting something like .340/.400/.450.

                          Where is the extension? Because they are costing themselves money here big time.

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                          • Originally posted by rmc523 View Post

                            No idea. It was Saturday, April 30th. They don't even have any special promo listed on the schedule......and aside from it being Saturday, it was the second game of the series too, so not like first day of a big opponent like the Yankees. It was Ray v. Luzardo, so not some Cy young v Cy young mega matchup.

                            The series attendance was:
                            game 1 - Fri 4/29: 9,963
                            game 2 - Sat 4/30: 29,010
                            game 3 - Sun 5/1: 16,741

                            It was very random and an outlier clearly.
                            probably either a heritage night or one of those UM nights. they had also won 6 or 7 straight going into that game on a saturday so it could just be a good crowd.
                            Last edited by fish16; 06-20-2023, 09:36 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by lou View Post

                              .417 BABIP, everything is sneaking through or falling. It's pretty great. Even normalizing his stats and he's probably hitting something like .340/.400/.450.

                              Where is the extension? Because they are costing themselves money here big time.
                              id guess they sign him and eury long term before the start of next year. they arent sending eury down anymore so i think that guarantees some sort of extension for him in the next year

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                              • They moved to a 665 season run pace last night which would have been 22nd overall last year. 6 weeks ago they were trending as the worst offensive team of the last decade so this is quite the pace improvement.

                                I only really feel Arraez and Sanchez are over achieving, so this could net out higher once Jazz and some trade addition lands, and most notably Segura does anything (or whoever replaces him does anything whether that be Amaya, Edwards, or other trade). Jazz, a big bat, normal Segura/something/anything, and a Stallings upgrade could get them into the early teens in run production quickly. 31 more runs over 73 games gets them to 12thish for perspective.

                                Really need a bat upgrade ASAP. After Pittsburgh later this week, they play 18/26 series against contenders, and I'm including two STL and one BOS series as non-contenders there which is very generous. It's about to get real.

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