2019-2020 Offseason Discussion

[Lee Stone]

40 man roster moving day

Easiest drops: Chen, Guerrero, Moran, Quijada, Wallach, Riddle, Brinson (there are certainly others as well, such as Keller, Kinley, Dean)

Must be added (protected): Sixto Sánchez, Jazz Chisholm, Edward Cabrera, Nick Neidert, Lewin Diaz, Humberto Mejia and Daniel Castano.

[lou]

40 man roster moving day

Easiest drops: Chen, Guerrero, Moran, Quijada, Wallach, Riddle, Brinson (there are certainly others as well)

Must be added (protected): Sixto Sánchez, Jazz Chisholm, Edward Cabrera, Nick Neidert, Lewin Diaz, Humberto Mejia and Daniel Castano.

Given that they haven't signed FA yet, I'm not sure who else they protect, but I think this 37 is pretty locked:

Alfaro, Wallach (2)
Cooper, L. Diaz (2)
I. Diaz, Berti (2)
Rojas, Jazz (2)
Anderson (1)
Sierra, Brinson, Monte (3)
Ramirez, Dean, J. Sanchez (3)
=15

Sandy, Caleb, Pablo, Urena, Yamamoto, Sixto, E. Cabrera, Neidert, Dugger (9)
Steckenrider, Stanek, Brice, Brigham, E. Hernandez, Guzman (6)
Garcia, Conley, Quijada, Castano (4)
=19

Holloway, Mejia, W. Stewart (3 - likely non 2020 players)
=3

Total=37

Mejia is the only one that is a maybe to me as they'd be daring some team to keep them on their 25 man all year, but I probably wouldn't risk that.

I can see Dylan Lee being protected (another lefty, crazy BABIP in AAA so he may be good when that normalizes).

Past that, I'm not very inspired by the fringe RHP with no control (Tayron, Keller, Kinley, Eveld, C. Smith, Graves, etc.), or fringe bench guys (Riddle, Brigman).

I don't think it will matter much who are the last two, so I'd guess Riddle and Chen are spared for now.

[tjfla]

Given that they haven't signed FA yet, I'm not sure who else they protect, but I think this 37 is pretty locked:

Alfaro, Wallach (2)
Cooper, L. Diaz (2)
I. Diaz, Berti (2)
Rojas, Jazz (2)
Anderson (1)
Sierra, Brinson, Monte (3)
Ramirez, Dean, J. Sanchez (3)
=15

Sandy, Caleb, Pablo, Urena, Yamamoto, Sixto, E. Cabrera, Neidert, Dugger (9)
Steckenrider, Stanek, Brice, Brigham, E. Hernandez, Guzman (6)
Garcia, Conley, Quijada, Castano (4)
=19

Holloway, Mejia, W. Stewart (3 - likely non 2020 players)
=3

Total=37

Mejia is the only one that is a maybe to me as they'd be daring some team to keep them on their 25 man all year, but I probably wouldn't risk that.

I can see Dylan Lee being protected (another lefty, crazy BABIP in AAA so he may be good when that normalizes).

Past that, I'm not very inspired by the fringe RHP with no control (Tayron, Keller, Kinley, Eveld, C. Smith, Graves, etc.), or fringe bench guys (Riddle, Brigman).

I don't think it will matter much who are the last two, so I'd guess Riddle and Chen are spared for now.

I could see Wallach DFA and resigned to minor league deal if spot is needed and Dylan Lee has a very good chance of being protected. They do it ALOT with LHR(Del Pozo,Grant Dayton come to mind) and if sucks can DFA but they will prolly protect him for now

A few fringe RP and Riddle/Brigman might be traded sometime today to open spots and get something. ALOT of chatter but nothing confirmed yet-Miami wants to be in Rule 5 draft so

DFA-Riddle/Moran/Keller/Kinley/Wallach/Tayron(IF NEEDED)

Could be traded today-Riddle/Moran/Keller/Kinley/Tayron/Eveld/Brigman/Mills

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not sure why rogers is lumped in with the possible RP group as of now. He was a high first round pick and did nothing but impress this year and had no significant control issues as a 21 year old all year in Jupiter and Jax. He is certainly not to be lumped in to a group with control issues with the likes of Guzman, who really improved his stock late in the year but still has clear control issues. Rogers aint in that group to me.

I lump him in because he only showed 1 year of this. Same with Guzman. IF they show something this year then I will move them into SP column

I actually like Rogers alot more this offseason than last offseason just not convinced a SP yet. Control alot better as well but still has issues controlling secondary pitches

[tjfla]

Fish paying attention to 4 teams today. Rays/NYY/SD/NYM

NYY is talking P Cessa,Holder,Yajure trades with teams and Miami is watching to see if NYY tenders Greg Bird. If not Miami is very interested in him on minor league deal with invite maybe even major league deal(has 3 options left). Holder has 1 option left and if they trade for Yajure they can send him down rather than Rule 5 pick

NYM we have interest in C Ali Sanchez and few prospects they asked for in JT talks

TB/SD have bad roster crunches and we like ALOT of what they got. TB bats and SD older RP arms

Miami is looking hard at Top prospects who teams can't carry in trades. What I mean is for example Minnesota doesn't have a spot for Wander Javier(#7 prospect) on its 40 man and he needs to be added. He is a 20 yr old SS in Low A ball however Miami could trade for him and put him on the 40 man(can be optioned) instead of taking him and having him stick on ML roster all year. Teams aren't gonna give guys like this up for nothing so doubtful stuff happens since ML teams probably won't take him anyways but we are trying hard to add more talent into farm system. I love the strategy!!!

[lou]

Chen DFA’d

They did it!

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It looks like they aren’t protecting Stewart and Castano

Mejia was protected. Don’t see full list yet

[fish16]

Thank the lord.

[Lee Stone]

Castano will be taken in the Rule 5. I'm somewhat disappointed.

Reds acquire 27 year old Jose De Leon from Rays. He may have been a nice bullpen guy for Marlins.

[fish16]

Castano will be taken in the Rule 5. I'm somewhat disappointed.

Reds acquire 27 year old Jose De Leon from Rays. He may have been a nice bullpen guy for Marlins.

Willing to bet that he won’t. None of our guys will aside from maybe Dylan lee

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Greg bird got dfa. I’d take a gamble on him staying healthy with us

[lou]

Looks like all the did was DFA Chen and fill their 6 spots.

They are still protecting Tayron, Moran, Keller, Kinley, and Riddle still. Still at 40.

I guess the idea is to keep Stewart/Castano off the 40 man and sign veterans with those 5 spots (or other Rule V/DFA/other acquisitions). Maybe they sneak through easier past the Rule V draft, then putting them on and taking them off at a later date.

A little bizarre though.

[lou]

Greg bird got dfa. I’d take a gamble on him staying healthy with us

I wouldn't mind at all. He'll make like $1.3-1.4 in arbitration.

Matt Duffy all DFA'd. He'll probably make like $3 million in arbitration. That's another good gamble. 2.5 WAR in 2018 and 28.

Alfaro, Wallach
Cooper, Bird
Diaz
Rojas, Berti
Anderson, Duffy
Castellanos/Ozuna
Sierra, Brinson
Ramirez

I think we'd all be pretty happy with that considering Cooper, Berti, and Anderson can pop out into the OF and they can deploy a lot of lineups. I think we'd see a lot of games with Sierra, Brinson, and Ramirez on the bench and Berti in CF and Cooper/Anderson in RF.

[Nick]

Yeah I dont think either Castano or Stewart get selected.

[tjfla]

Looks like all the did was DFA Chen and fill their 6 spots.

They are still protecting Tayron, Moran, Keller, Kinley, and Riddle still. Still at 40.

I guess the idea is to keep Stewart/Castano off the 40 man and sign veterans with those 5 spots (or other Rule V/DFA/other acquisitions). Maybe they sneak through easier past the Rule V draft, then putting them on and taking them off at a later date.

A little bizarre though.

Guys who could get selected are

Dylan Lee
Dan Castano
Will Stewart
Tommy Eveld

First 2 maybe but there are so many arms in it its 50/50. Marlins didn't protect them because by 7:30 they saw who was on list and thought they could get them thru. (I think atleast 1 RP will get picked)

Marlins missed out of 3 C they were looking at however LOTS of young high reward MIF in Rule 5. Esteury Ruiz,Miguelangel Sierra,Wander Javier,Sherveyn Newton(NONE of them are close to being ready but could be a way to get another prospect into the system)

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I wouldn't mind at all. He'll make like $1.3-1.4 in arbitration.

Matt Duffy all DFA'd. He'll probably make like $3 million in arbitration. That's another good gamble. 2.5 WAR in 2018 and 28.

Alfaro, Wallach
Cooper, Bird
Diaz
Rojas, Berti
Anderson, Duffy
Castellanos/Ozuna
Sierra, Brinson
Ramirez

I think we'd all be pretty happy with that considering Cooper, Berti, and Anderson can pop out into the OF and they can deploy a lot of lineups. I think we'd see a lot of games with Sierra, Brinson, and Ramirez on the bench and Berti in CF and Cooper/Anderson in RF.

I hope we take a gamble on Duffy however Greg Bird they are very interested in

They will offer Bird atleast a Milb deal with invite however there is some chatter that they just might claim him and pay him his 1.2 million. He has 3 options as well

DFA guys are Moran,Keller,Kinley,Tayron,Riddle,Wallach,Austin Dean,Conley which means they have LOTS of options. Remember all yesterday was u had to add YOUR guys to protect them. U can still DFA/Sign/Claim guys


A name to watch for us in Rule 5 is Andy Ibanez. 27 yr old Cuban who can play 2B,SS,3B

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=ibanez001and


Non tender JT open a spot and take this guy????

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They talked trade with a few teams by way however prices were wayyy to high for liking.(Always an issue when u have a Top 5 system) RP could still be moved especially since they will be DFA a few of them

[fish16]

wait we didnt protect Eveld when he needed to? He's the guy who will be selected. That was a mistake given some of the names we have on our 40 man right now. He is a future back end of the bullpen type arm.

[Nick]

wait we didnt protect Eveld when he needed to? He's the guy who will be selected. That was a mistake given some of the names we have on our 40 man right now. He is a future back end of the bullpen type arm.

Not sure I agree with that last sentence, but I do agree I'd expect he'd get selected before Stewart or Castano.

[Lee Stone]

Free agents should start moving relatively soon. If the Marlins are willing to spend $15M over two years for Corey Dickerson, I'm on board. His OPS+ for both 2019 season and career are superior to Castellanos, for example, and his defense is better. The LHB is needed. Also potential trade bait at mid season. No rumors connect Marlins to Brad Miller, but I continue to like him for Miami.