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  • The Red Sox look more and more like the trade partner for Stanton that makes sense. Some combo of devers, bogaerts, betta or benintendi

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      • Surprised about Moore. Hunter Cervenka,Severino Gonzalez,Austin Nola also should have been outrighted but tons more roster moves will be happening

        As of this moment only Andy Beltre needs to be on 40 man to avoid Rule 5/Miguel Del Pozo maybe if he has a nice AFL

        Our 40 man as well as our whole farm system will look alot different come ST

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        Originally posted by fish16 View Post
        The Red Sox look more and more like the trade partner for Stanton that makes sense. Some combo of devers, bogaerts, betta or benintendi
        They do but the issues are the No trade and would they pick up all the cash while sending us 1 of them? Could see us throwing in some cash to cover a Ziegler or Tazawa but not for Stanton

        The "combo" would be 1 of Betts,Beintendi,Bogaerts or Devers and a low level prospect or 2. Low Level could mean young guy like Bryan Mata/Hildemaro Requena or ML ready arm who isn't great but maybe(Bearclaw type) like Kyle Martin/Brian Johnson

        Still hearing SF/LA are the favorites but this is the reason they wanna trade Stanton first. They can trade him see what they get and go on from there.
        Last edited by tjfla; 10-07-2017, 01:02 PM.

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          • MLB Trade Rumor Projections

            Marlins (6)
            •Marcell Ozuna (4.124) – $10.9MM
            •Derek Dietrich (3.151) – $3.2MM
            •Dan Straily (3.126) – $4.6MM
            •Justin Bour (3.064) – $3.5MM
            •Miguel Rojas (3.043) – $1.1MM
            •J.T. Realmuto (3.038) – $4.2MM

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            Some trade talk
            http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/sp...177698496.html

            Also Dan Jennings getting GM interview in Atlanta(Another Jeff screw up)
            Last edited by tjfla; 10-09-2017, 10:56 AM.

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            • Worst secret ever is done

              Gary Denbo is now the Marlins’ director of player development and amateur scouting. Mike Hill stays on a President of Baseball Ops(Title only since Jeter is actually President of Baseball Ops)

              FO is Jeter-Mike Hill-Denbo with Mike Hill having NO power,just talk trades/go to meetings. Actually same role as last FO just he does what Jeter says instead of Jeff. The reason seems to be Jeter wants Denbo to spend most of his time on the farm system/scouting instead of having to do everything. Jeter is going to try to bring in other guys he trusts to do more work than Mike Hill like Jim Hendry/Gordon Blakeley(if allowed)
              Last edited by tjfla; 10-09-2017, 12:31 PM.

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              • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                MLB Trade Rumor Projections

                Marlins (6)
                •Marcell Ozuna (4.124) – $10.9MM
                •Derek Dietrich (3.151) – $3.2MM
                •Dan Straily (3.126) – $4.6MM
                •Justin Bour (3.064) – $3.5MM
                •Miguel Rojas (3.043) – $1.1MM
                •J.T. Realmuto (3.038) – $4.2MM

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                Some trade talk
                http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/sp...177698496.html

                Also Dan Jennings getting GM interview in Atlanta(Another Jeff screw up)
                I could have sworn Realmuto and Bour were still in the team control/pre arbitration phase of their contractual status. That kind of changes things a little.

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                • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                  I could have sworn Realmuto and Bour were still in the team control/pre arbitration phase of their contractual status. That kind of changes things a little.
                  Nope over 3 years they get paid. JT has 3 full years and 11 games in 2014(Gotta love those Sept callups)

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                  • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                    Nope over 3 years they get paid. JT has 3 full years and 11 games in 2014(Gotta love those Sept callups)
                    that was more shit luck than anything. Saltalamacchia being a complete zero kind of necessitated them bringing him up way too early or at least earlier then he ideally would have. That seems to have been the right move, just poor mismanagement thinking Salty was a quality catcher more than mismanaging the situation of JT.

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                    • Gary Denbo will become the Marlins' director of player development and amateur scouting.......Hill is staying as president of baseball ops...

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                      • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                        Worst secret ever is done

                        Gary Denbo is now the Marlins’ director of player development and amateur scouting. Mike Hill stays on a President of Baseball Ops(Title only since Jeter is actually President of Baseball Ops)

                        FO is Jeter-Mike Hill-Denbo with Mike Hill having NO power,just talk trades/go to meetings. Actually same role as last FO just he does what Jeter says instead of Jeff. The reason seems to be Jeter wants Denbo to spend most of his time on the farm system/scouting instead of having to do everything. Jeter is going to try to bring in other guys he trusts to do more work than Mike Hill like Jim Hendry/Gordon Blakeley(if allowed)
                        What's up with Samson??? Is he officially gone yet?

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                        • Originally posted by The_Godfather View Post
                          What's up with Samson??? Is he officially gone yet?
                          ya, that was reported in like mid august or so.

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                          • Originally posted by The_Godfather View Post
                            What's up with Samson??? Is he officially gone yet?
                            I don't know when his last day is/was if that's what you're asking.....but yes, he'll be (or already is) gone.

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                            • Originally posted by rmc523 View Post
                              I don't know when his last day is/was if that's what you're asking.....but yes, he'll be (or already is) gone.
                              No clue if fired yet but has nothing to do with the team anymore. Mike Hill is the only one from old FO with a job(Stan Meek might still work in scouting but he hasn't decided yet-not running the draft anymore. Denbo is now)

                              Mike Hill is President of Baseball Ops/GM in name only right now. Big reason is he has relationships around baseball/can talk trades and knows the team. They are looking for a new GM(reports are its gonna be Ex Cubs GM Jim Hendry) and Jeter is the "real" President of Baseball

                              Like said in previous post,they wanted Denbo to be the President of Baseball/GM but Jeter wants him to devote all his time to the minors/scouting right now and not worry about talking to GMs,going to meetings. Don't be surprised in 2 or 3 years if Denbo is promoted to President/GM

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                              • Glad to hear the focus will be on scouting/minors, it's what we always should have been doing. I don't mind a complete teardown and rebuild if it results in us having the best farm system in the league for the new few years.

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