2022-2023 Offseason Thread

[lou]

And now the giants failed correas physical and the Mets sign him despite not having a need at ss and with luxury tax their payroll is now projected for 495 million when the previous high for a payroll in league history was 350. Why even watch this sport?

Wow. Cot's also has them at $517m FWIW (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1520401900)

Although I suspect they look to dump Carrasco, McCann, and Escobar quickly which would comically lower things by $65m with the luxury tax, and those last few guys on the roster (looking at you Elisier and Brigham!) may just get released so they avoid some minor arbitration tenders. Big picture, they probably roll out a $450-460m team as I have to imagine they do trade those guys.

But yes - why watch this sport? This is beyond comical? Although as mentioned before - maybe we keep rooting for Steve to spend more so it gets a salary cap (and floor).


BTW - This is a fun salary absorption scenario also - Marlins get Carrasco, McCann (really dead money), Escobar..... and the Mets have to juice that with say Ronny Mauricio (becomes longterm 3B with Groshans on paper, maybe can stay at SS for a little) and Joey Luchessi (6th SP now) and some cash for McCann next year (maybe $5m or so). That would be the Marlins adding $35m to 2023, and call it $5m for McCann in 2024. But they get Carrasco and Escobar (hits lefties at 3B and Milwaukee did play him a little at 1B). According to Lee's baseball trade value website, the Marlins should be able to do this just trading back Rojas/Wendle to them. I'm not going to bother doing my own surplus analysis.

I'll spare the details, but let's just say you can build very very fun teams for $100-110m as they'd have 8 SP and 2-3 could be traded, as well as other MLB pieces plus farm hands. Of course, can Bruce afford being 1/4th the Mets payroll when he has 1/30th the wealth of Steve?

[lou]

Meanwhile the Angels signed Drury for 2/17, which apparently we can't afford. As usual, we were "interested" but didn't get anything done.

So basically we're back to square 1 of we're not doing anything apparently.

This doesn't upset me, but that is a good price for him

[fish16]

Meanwhile the Angels signed Drury for 2/17, which apparently we can't afford. As usual, we were "interested" but didn't get anything done.

So basically we're back to square 1 of we're not doing anything apparently.

drury stinks. glad they didnt sign him even though that's not all that expensive. He's going to be a mediocre player for the angels. the guy didnt just become an .800 OPS guy. He has a career track record of .736 OPS including the outlier year he just had, and a 302 OBP.

[fish16]

we were the 4th best team in our division last year and nowhere close to the top 3- the 3 teams already ahead of us have brought back their own players AND added Trea Turner, Sean Murphy, Carlos Correa, Justin Verlander, Senga, Quintana, David Robertson, Adam Ottavino.

[lou]

drury stinks. glad they didnt sign him even though that's not all that expensive. He's going to be a mediocre player for the angels. the guy didnt just become an .800 OPS guy. He has a career track record of .736 OPS including the outlier year he just had, and a 302 OBP.

It's all about who can hit LHP at 3B/1B. As they can shuffle the rest of the team around that as they can play Berti and Soler in LF if need be.

To note, Evan Longoria has smashed LHP for the last 4 seasons (.850+ OPS). He is slowing down, but he could easily be a good 400+ PA platoon partner for Cooper and Berti and a nice veteran presence. I'm sure he is looking for a contending platoon gig, but they have some options. Queue the, hey do some things so veterans see this is a potential contender as they just have to beat the Phillies/Brewers and not the Mets/Braves/Dodgers/Padres for a playoff spot.

[rmc523]

we were the 4th best team in our division last year and nowhere close to the top 3- the 3 teams already ahead of us have brought back their own players AND added Trea Turner, Sean Murphy, Carlos Correa, Justin Verlander, Senga, Quintana, David Robertson, Adam Ottavino.

Yeah, it's truly sad.

[rmc523]

Apparently Bally Sports may go bankrupt too on top of not doing anything lol. So there potentially goes the fancy TV rights deal.....not like we were spending that money anyway.

[Todd]

The Marlins, Rays, Heat, Magic, Jaguars, Dolphins, Panthers, Lightning and the MLS teams need to join up and start their own network, IMO.

All Marlins and Ray's games on their own dedicated subfeeds.
Same for Heat and Magic and Panthers and Lightning and the MLS teams.
All Dolphin and Jaguar pre season games on the channel.
Sign deals with local colleges for supplemental content.

[rmc523]

MLS rights for 2023 went to Apple TV+

But I do think they might still be on My33/CW locally? I could be wrong about that.

[Todd]

Yea every club has a local deal and generally they are on local subchannels.

I've actually wondered why this is something that hasn't happened more often, since TV stations are owned by large conglomerates. Why they haven't looked to sign ballclubs and give them their own subchannel across a few markets.

[lou]

Lewis Diaz released, maybe if he passes through waivers this time they can sign him to a MiLB deal and really jack up the Jumbo Shrimp some more. Priorities.

[rmc523]

Lol, I bet we sign Hosmer and Moustakas and pretend that those are big moves.

[fish16]

Lol, I bet we sign Hosmer and Moustakas and pretend that those are big moves.

those would be huge moves. it would instantly vault us into contention for the 2015 world series.

[rmc523]

those would be huge moves. it would instantly vault us into contention for the 2015 world series.

Bahaha.

[fish16]

From Morosi
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If #Pirates trade Bryan Reynolds this offseason, they’re looking for at least one top starting pitcher to headline the package — such as Bobby Miller (#Dodgers) or Ricky Tiedemann (#BlueJays), both of whom rank among the top 40 prospects in
@MLB
, per
@MLBPipeline
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you knew it would happen but more smoke coming out about what pirates would want for reynolds. Morosi says a young controllable pitcher who is controllable. Other than Eury who wont be dealt for him, we dont have that in the version of a prospect, but we certainly have that with Rogers. I think you start with Rogers and build a package from there. Maybe Rogers, Meyer/Eder, then one of the SS prospects (Salas, Cappe, Lewis). I would think thats more than enough to get it done. I would do that in a heartbeat. We easily have what it takes to make it work. If they dont pull the trigger im done with this team, and im pretty close already. this offseason has been a complete joke.

No idea who it is, but someone on twitter who seems to have sources and has 5k followers says the pirates really like trevor rogers. If rogers is the only major league piece that is a complete no brainer to me. Leaves you with Sandy, Pablo, Luzardo, Cabrera, Garrett, and you could still sign cueto and have Eury, and whoever is left of Fulton, Eder, and Meyer in the system.