2021-2022 Offseason Thread

[rmc523]

my issue was you called him a bust after literally his second game here because you are a relentlessly miserable human being who doesn't actually like the team but no one actually wants to be around anyone as miserable as you in real life so you share your misery with this board and ruin it. I don't care about a lewis brinson argument from 3 years ago, get a fucking life

Just ignore him and maybe he'll go away.

[Nick]

Jesus, the Braves get Matt Olson. We're fucked.

[lou]

Jesus, the Braves get Matt Olson. We're fucked.

You knew they were going to do something.

Marlins have better pitching likely now and longterm. Get a CF and spend some money.

[Namaste]

Jesus, the Braves get Matt Olson. We're fucked.

isn’t he just Freeman’s replacement?

[Nick]

isn’t he just Freeman’s replacement?

I guess so, I thought they might have both with the DH coming in. Either way, Olson is younger and was the superior player to Freeman last year.

[fish16]

i think that's a downgrade for the braves in the first few years but that freeman contract probably doesn't age well so olsen for freeman is essentially a wash in my opinion. worse for years 1-2, better for the future.

[lou]

Frisario has this weird tweet about Schwarber to the Blue Jays - "pay attention Marlins fans" - https://twitter.com/JoeFrisaro/statu...15069098905606

So basically, can Lourdes Guirrel play CF? Jays top prospect is also a 3B who will be ready midseason theoretically.

C - They have a billion
1B - Vlad
2B - Biggio
SS - Bichette
3B - _________ / Espinal (who was fantastic but still).
LF - Hernandez
CF - Springer
RF - Grichuk / Gurriel
DH - Schwarber

Marlins could do some major damage here, say Grichuk (salary dump, big time), Gurriel (3 years of control), let's say Kirk (DH. He rakes), and prospects, for like Brian Anderson (3B/RF for them), Burdick, DLC, and relievers?

They'd have:

Stallings, Fortes
Aguilar/Cooper
Jazz
Rojas, Berti
Wendle, _______ (TBD veteran 3B to help)
Sanchez
Gurriel, Grichuk
Avisail
DH - Kirk

One of Aguilar/Cooper is shed. Blue Jays open payroll to sign someone else.

Anyways

[Namaste]

Olsen’s numbers were better than Freeman’s for sure in 2021 but I was thinking……could it be argued that Freeman consistently faced better pitching than Olsen based on the divisions they were in? Just a thought. I’m probably making something out of nothing.


Did we sign Reynolds yet? *sigh*

[Namaste]

I was also wondering why we are reportedly targeting a guy who had a negative WAR last year and had had one good season in his career (Soler).

[sports24/7]

I was also wondering why we are reportedly targeting a guy who had a negative WAR last year and had had one good season in his career (Soler).

Signing Soler as the last "big" bat, and touting him and Garcia as a winning offseason that's supposed to change things would be such a typical Marlins thing to do. I'm still holding out hope that the big move is coming, but every passing day I get more nervous that we're being set up for more of the same.

[rmc523]

Signing Soler as the last "big" bat, and touting him and Garcia as a winning offseason that's supposed to change things would be such a typical Marlins thing to do. I'm still holding out hope that the big move is coming, but every passing day I get more nervous that we're being set up for more of the same.

Yeah, I really hope not.

[Lee Stone]

Signing Soler as the last "big" bat, and touting him and Garcia as a winning offseason that's supposed to change things would be such a typical Marlins thing to do. I'm still holding out hope that the big move is coming, but every passing day I get more nervous that we're being set up for more of the same.

Specifically, what "big moves" would you like to see? Exactly who would you trade for and who would you trade? And if you had $20M to spend on a free agent (s), who exactly would you sign?

[Nick]

Specifically, what "big moves" would you like to see? Exactly who would you trade for and who would you trade? And if you had $20M to spend on a free agent (s), who exactly would you sign?

I'm not sports24/7, but:

deal for Reynolds - Watson, Meyer, Fulton (try to keep Perez at all costs)
Sign Anthony Rizzo
Sign Kenley Jansen

Would probably take closer to $35 million than $20 but it still would be around a $90 million payroll which is bottom 3rd in the league.

[Lee Stone]

I'm not sports24/7, but:

deal for Reynolds - Watson, Meyer, Fulton (try to keep Perez at all costs)
Sign Anthony Rizzo
Sign Kenley Jansen

Would probably take closer to $35 million than $20 but it still would be around a $90 million payroll which is bottom 3rd in the league.

I can't see any set of moves that allows Miami to compete with Atlanta or the Mets this season. Given that at least seven starters will be required to cover injuries etc., I don't think you subtract from Alcantara, Rogers, Lopez, Luzardo, Cabrera, Hernandez and Meyer. Eder, Fulton, Perez, Velez, and a surprise or two that may blossom in the minors this season may give the Marlins a chance to deal from the current staff at the deadline or next offseason.

[Nick]

I can't see any set of moves that allows Miami to compete with Atlanta or the Mets this season. Given that at least seven starters will be required to cover injuries etc., I don't think you subtract from Alcantara, Rogers, Lopez, Luzardo, Cabrera, Hernandez and Meyer. Eder, Fulton, Perez, Velez, and a surprise or two that may blossom in the minors this season may give the Marlins a chance to deal from the current staff at the deadline or next offseason.

I'm not following your thought process here, you start out by saying there's no way we can compete with the Mets and Braves this year and follow it up by saying we can't subtract from our pitching depth because of the amount of pitchers we'll need. Like it'd be a disaster if Poteet and Neidert made starts this year for us in what (in your words) is a lost season.