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  • Originally posted by Big Z View Post
    I don't mind keeping JJ, as long as we contend next year.

    They need to get rid of Nolasco though.
    Really not seeing how they will be contending next year.
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    Also how much of JJ's season really is bad luck when he's giving up a 24% LD rate?
    Last edited by MiamiHomer; 07-30-2012, 02:17 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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    • Originally posted by MiamiHomer View Post
      Really not seeing how they will be contending next year.
      I think a lot would have to go right to contend next year.

      Eovaldi and Turner would have to pitch well. Buerhle would have to repeat. Ricky would have to finally pitch to FIP. JJ needs to be JJ, not jj.

      Lomo needs to figure it out. Buck needs to stop being terrible. Boni needs to be superBoni. Stanton needs stay healthy. Find production from 3rd & CF. Ruge needs to be Cody 2.0. And then pray for health because we have no depth.

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      • Ya it doesn't look like his asking price is coming down any. If we decide to lower the price there are still a few teams interested in JJ

        The thinking around baseball still is his value is between Greinke and Wandy Rodriguez. So we are talking maybe 1 Top 5 Prospect in the organization and 2 lesser ones,while Beinfest sees him as better than Greinke since he has another year left and is worth Mike Olt plus 3 others


        Nolasco on the other hand we would love to trade however no one is really interested in him. Hearing more interest in Zambrano

        Boner is the name everyone seems to want and are willing to pay for however keep hearing he is staying no matter what
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        If he does stay with us tho,it's almost 100% that JJ will be dealt during the Winter Meetings
        Last edited by tjfla; 07-30-2012, 02:24 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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        • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
          Ya it doesn't look like his asking price is coming down any. If we decide to lower the price there are still a few teams interested in JJ

          The thinking around baseball still is his value is between Greinke and Wandy Rodriguez. So we are talking maybe 1 Top 5 Prospect in the organization and 2 lesser ones,while Beinfest sees him as better than Greinke since he has another year left and is worth Mike Olt plus 3 others


          Nolasco on the other hand we would love to trade however no one is really interested in him. Hearing more interest in Zambrano

          Boner is the name everyone seems to want and are willing to pay for however keep hearing he is staying no matter what
          I feel like they need to jump on that but looks like they aren't unfortunately. Only hope is if they realize that in the winter meetings and made a solid deal then.

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          • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
            Ya it doesn't look like his asking price is coming down any. If we decide to lower the price there are still a few teams interested in JJ

            The thinking around baseball still is his value is between Greinke and Wandy Rodriguez. So we are talking maybe 1 Top 5 Prospect in the organization and 2 lesser ones,while Beinfest sees him as better than Greinke since he has another year left and is worth Mike Olt plus 3 others


            Nolasco on the other hand we would love to trade however no one is really interested in him. Hearing more interest in Zambrano

            Boner is the name everyone seems to want and are willing to pay for however keep hearing he is staying no matter what
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            If he does stay with us tho,it's almost 100% that JJ will be dealt during the Winter Meetings

            What happened to:

            The spot is Texas-if Lee is not available Olt+ for JJ is very likely
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            • Why the hell did we ever give Nolasco an extension? I would've much rather given it to Anibal. Ricky is so hard to move.

              Would TX include Olt in a deal for JJ at all? For instant JJ for Olt and 2 lesser prospects?

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              • Originally posted by MiamiHomer View Post
                I feel like they need to jump on that but looks like they aren't unfortunately. Only hope is if they realize that in the winter meetings and made a solid deal then.
                I feel the same way

                If Beinfest called Texas and said Garcia,Buckel,Grimm and another mid prospect-Texas would prolly say deal. This would give us Grimm as another young SP,Buckel as either a SP/power RP,Garcia who could play be our starting 2B with Boner to CF or 3B plus we get rid of 19 million bucks OR

                Boston and ask for a package of prospects

                Beinfest is looking to sell high and unfortunately it's way TOO high
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                What happened is Texas will NOT discuss Profar or Olt and Beinfest will NOT discuss a deal without Olt. In other words unless a team changes mind its over
                Last edited by tjfla; 07-30-2012, 02:33 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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                • Originally posted by Big Z View Post
                  Why the hell did we ever give Nolasco an extension? I would've much rather given it to Anibal. Ricky is so hard to move.

                  Would TX include Olt in a deal for JJ at all? For instant JJ for Olt and 2 lesser prospects?
                  Because his peripherals always looked good and the hope was that he would end up making that a reality and he never did.

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                  • The deal we need to look at is Wandy Rodriguez,we should be asking for a little more than what he cost Pitt,especially if we don't have to pay any cash back

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                    • TJ, are we looking at any 3rd basemen or CF'ers?

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                      • Nevermind

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                        • Originally posted by brandnew View Post
                          Why would they trade the pitcher they just traded for?
                          Not aquire him,I am saying look at the trade

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                          • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                            Not aquire him,I am saying look at the trade
                            Yeah I realized that after posting.

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                            • Originally posted by Big Z View Post
                              TJ, are we looking at any 3rd basemen or CF'ers?
                              I havent heard about us looking to aquire anything,just trade Lee,Zambrano,JJ,Nolasco,Dobbs for younger/cheaper guys

                              I know alot of u guys might not like this but Boner can play 2B/3B/CF so it's not like we need a specific guy. If we get Olt,Boner will play either 2B or CF. If we get Jackie Bradley,Boner can play either 2B or 3B. They love him and are confident he can play wherever they put him even at 3B

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                              • I have no problem with Boni at 2B. It's having him in 3B and CF where they take away potential power bat positions that I don't agree with.

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