Jayson Stark: Marlins Expected to Keep Josh Johnson

[Erick]

I have no problem with Bonifacio playing any of those positions. He's versatile; if the options at 2B/CF are better, play him at 3B.

[lou]

I have zero problem keeping JJ and Nolasco in walk years.

Also, I have no problem expecting a very Jhonny Peralta/Kelly Johnson/Macier Izturis/Marco Scutaro one year 2.0 WAR player wherever Bonifacio isn't.

They just need to sign a legit high end center fielder, one of those 2B/3B one year shlubs, and let's say bring in a veteran LF to help Ruggiano/Gaby(lomo shift), better backup catcher, and maybe a reliable 3rd RHP out of the pen on a small deal.

That's 85-88 wins on paper if they get more consistency from Reyes, Buck, Morrison, and Bell, less injuries to Stanton and Bonifacio. I'll take that with young/veteran pitching to deal at deadline.

[Miamarlin21]

I'm looking at Leury Garcia's numbers, who TJ mentioned, and he has done so-so this year. He barely has an OBP over .300 this year in Double-A and he doesn't have a good track record of getting on base. He is, from what I've read, a plus defender though.

[Valid]

I think a lot would have to go right to contend next year.

Eovaldi and Turner would have to pitch well. Buerhle would have to repeat. Ricky would have to finally pitch to FIP. JJ needs to be JJ, not jj.

Lomo needs to figure it out. Buck needs to stop being terrible. Boni needs to be superBoni. Stanton needs stay healthy. Find production from 3rd & CF. Ruge needs to be Cody 2.0. And then pray for health because we have no depth.

Honestly, I don't think that's ever going to happen. We've been saying that for years now. For some unfortunate reason, the guy never lives up to his peripherals.

[tjfla]

I'm looking at Leury Garcia's numbers, who TJ mentioned, and he has done so-so this year. He barely has an OBP over .300 this year in Double-A and he doesn't have a good track record of getting on base. He is, from what I've read, a plus defender though.

Ya he is not a superstar however is a Plus defender,has speed and is in AA at 21,Grimm could step into JJ's spot and is another young arm,Buckel is a SP right now but could be a very nice RP in few years,Other prospect could be whoever,Texas has so many prospects

I doubt we would do it,but would be a good deal for us if we did

[Miamarlin21]

I'd be OK with Olt, Buckel and Garica. Even in the off-season I think their stance should be Olt or no deal.

[tjfla]

I'd be OK with Olt, Buckel and Garica. Even in the off-season I think their stance should be Olt or no deal.

Ya thats the deal I heard we proposed, Olt,Garcia,Buckel or Grimm plus another prospect and were told Olt is not gonna be in any deal.

They offered Grimm plus 2 other prospects of Milwaukee's choosing for Greinke but were told No

[Swifty]

Well Hanley was worse bad last year, you hate Buck, Lomo and Gaby are unproven.

Who else lost it?

Is this a serious question? Who's played well this year other than Ruggiano and Stanton?

Reyes has been bad. Gaby and Buck are worst player in MLB awful, Logan is probably a bad player long-term, but at least could do a OPS+ above 100 in 2010 and 2011, he's not there this year (88). Infante was adequate (though he feels like a really good 3.5 weeks hid a ton of suck) and Bonifacio's been "bad" (87 OPS+, though his .351 OBP is encouraging, as his SB%).

So yeah, everyone well under performing expectations.

[Valid]

In Morrison's defense, he has been playing with a bad knee all year. I'm sure that had a significant effect on his lack of production.

[tjfla]

Jon Daniels has got some balls,reports are he told Philly that they are interested in Lee but not to ask for Profar or Olt and if Perez or Martin is in the deal they better be willing to eat alot of cash

I know he knows what he is doing but does he realize that eventually those guys tearing up the minors will need to come up?

[Valid]

Well, Lee's value has dropped like a sack of bricks this year, so it's no surprise that Daniels is playing hardball with Philly.

[MiamiHomer]

Jon Daniels has got some balls,reports are he told Philly that they are interested in Lee but not to ask for Profar or Olt and if Perez or Martin is in the deal they better be willing to eat alot of cash

I know he knows what he is doing but does he realize that eventually those guys tearing up the minors will need to come up?

They'll find room for them when the time comes.

[tjfla]

They'll find room for them when the time comes.

Ya more than likely but damn he is playing it like they are playing for next season rather than having a chance at the WS this year

[Mainge]

Is this a serious question? Who's played well this year other than Ruggiano and Stanton?

Reyes has been bad. Gaby and Buck are worst player in MLB awful, Logan is probably a bad player long-term, but at least could do a OPS+ above 100 in 2010 and 2011, he's not there this year (88). Infante was adequate (though he feels like a really good 3.5 weeks hid a ton of suck) and Bonifacio's been "bad" (87 OPS+, though his .351 OBP is encouraging, as his SB%).

So yeah, everyone well under performing expectations.

Reyes has been really good sans one month. Lomo wasn't any better last year, Boni played way over his head last year and is playing to what he should be.

The only proven hitters we have that have crazy underperformed are Buck and maybe Hanley. The rest are the pitfalls of playing young unproven guys.

[lou]

Ya more than likely but damn he is playing it like they are playing for next season rather than having a chance at the WS this year

Daniels is taking right position on July 30th, tomorrow is when the ladies become men. Or vice versa.