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Marlins Trade Anibal Sanchez & Omar Infante To Tigers For Jacob Turner & Prospects

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    • Originally posted by Hugg View Post
      They'll call up Coghlan and start him in CF with Bonifacio at 2B.

      Just to piss Mainge off.
      I stopped caring when you did.

      Only thing that would piss me off would be Wade in CF.

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      • He would dive for balls he didn't have to dive for, for sure.

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        • Originally posted by Party View Post
          Those teams won baseball games and loved to walk-off. The only bad season from that group was 2007 and that's cause we gave up 890 runs! 890!!! The "thing" with those teams was the horrible defense. But I do remember complaining every once in a while about the offense.
          Those were fun years.
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          Originally posted by Hugg View Post
          He would dive for balls he didn't have to dive for, for sure.
          And never land on his feet.
          Last edited by Mainge; 07-24-2012, 04:34 AM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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          • While much of the focus today is on the Ichiro Suzuki trade (and my thoughts on that are at the bottom of this piece), a much more significant deal was reportedly made between the Detroit Tigers and Miami Marlins.

            The Tigers clearly make themselves better in a tight AL Central race this year with the acquisitions of Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante, but the Marlins did well to obtain one top-30 prospect (Jacob Turner) and a couple of other solid prospects in exchange for an impending free agent pitcher and a 30-year-old hitter who would probably be a utility player on most teams.

            Sanchez had significant shoulder problems earlier in his career, but has been healthy since the start of 2010 and has made himself into an above-average starter thanks to a plus changeup with good deception and at times some late tumble. His fastball is just average, but he locates it well enough to stay ahead in the count and avoid free passes, although it's fairly flat and might make him homer-prone in the wrong ballpark.

            With Sanchez and a healthy Doug Fister back in the mix, the Tigers have five solid starters -- Drew Smyly, now injured, was coming back to earth when he got hurt anyway -- and no depth if their rotation should sustain another injury. Infante isn't anything special with the bat or glove, but given what he's replacing, Tigers fans might mistake him for Rogers Hornsby. Detroit's second basemen have hit a combined .201/.286/.276 this season, so while Infante isn't likely to improve his performance when moving to the better league, he'll be an improvement over anything the Tigers have in-house at second base. The two additions make the Tigers two to three wins better for the rest of this season, plus some value from Infante in 2013 as well.

            Turner was consistently up to 97 mph with his fastball in high school, touching 99, but is more 90-94 now. He works with a two-seamer that has some tailing life and generates a few more ground balls than his four-seamer does, but not enough to overcome the fact that he doesn't miss bats like he should.

            He has a full starter's repertoire, with a power curveball at 77-82 that used to be sharper, a cutter at 84-86 that probably needs to be closer to his fastball in velocity, and a changeup with pretty good action at 86-87. As much as I understand the idea of making starting pitchers more efficient, I don't get the idea of taking a power pitcher like Turner and turning him into a finesse/ground ball guy; I think he's lost a little arm speed, but that could also be a function of trying to 'pitch' too much instead of just letting it go. He alone makes the deal worthwhile for the Marlins, as he's got enough stuff as is to end up a third or fourth starter but isn't far removed from a time when he looked like a possible star. It's quite possible he was just rushed to the majors and hasn't had time to make the necessary adjustments.


            The other prospects headed to Miami are catcher Rob Brantly and lefty Brian Flynn. Brantly, who has struggled a bit since a promotion to Triple-A, is a contact-oriented hitter without much patience and a hook-oriented swing; he has an above-average arm but his receiving has always been a problem, most likely because he doesn't have the hands for it. Flynn, who was just promoted to Double-A, has good stuff but has trouble repeating his delivery, right down to his arm slot, and probably ends up a reliever, although his delivery seems to get worse when he's working from the stretch. The deal largely boils down to Turner, but as I said, I think he's a great pickup in exchange for two months of Sanchez and a season-plus of Infante.

            One point of interest in this trade is that, for the first time in MLB history, we have seen draft picks traded, as the two teams exchanged their "competitive balance lottery" picks, with the Tigers sending their pick after to the second round to the Marlins for their pick after the first round. (We'll ignore, for the moment, the absurdity of the Tigers receiving a pick in that process while the Rays received none.) Let's hope teams' interest in using these picks as trade commodities spurs changes in the next CBA to allow teams to trade other draft picks as well.
            http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/...oit-tigers-mlb
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            looks like Dan Jennings is on his way up
            Last edited by emkayseven; 07-24-2012, 08:19 AM. Reason: Doublepost Merged
            Originally posted by Madman81
            Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
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            • Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi

              Spoke with one scout who believes Brantly has a higher overall value than Turner. #Marlins did well in this trade.
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              • Is Brantly's dad a scout?

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                • FreeDiggyBitch ‏@MassieeBabyy
                  Whyy it had to b sum marlins why it culdnt b sum utha niggas
                  whyy.
                  Originally posted by Madman81
                  Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
                  Need help? Questions? Concerns? Want to chat? PM me!

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                  • Told U Guys!!

                    This is a great trade for us,we get Turner instead of #30-#40 pick in the draft,aquired our Catcher of the Future(Sorry Skip/JT),replaced Rasmussen with a guy a foot taller and 100lbs more and saved atleast 1 million bucks

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                    • DKnobler ‏@DKnobler
                      Tigers proposed Sanchez-Infante deal last week. Marlins made decision to sell on Sunday.
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                      • Originally posted by MiamiHomer View Post
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                        Ya Infante deal was done last week

                        Deal was to be Infante for Brantly/another prospect then decided wanted Anibal too

                        Reason why draft picks were included was because Detroit is NOT gonna resign Anibal,so they get something back for trading Turner(Comp Pick)

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                        • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                          Ya Infante deal was done last week

                          Deal was to be Infante for Brantly/another prospect then decided wanted Anibal too

                          Reason why draft picks were included was because Detroit is NOT gonna resign Anibal,so they get something back for trading Turner(Comp Pick)
                          They gave us a pick too right?

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                          • Correct, Mainge.
                            LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-

                            5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K

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                            • Originally posted by Mainge View Post
                              They gave us a pick too right?
                              Ya so we have the last pick before Round 3 now(Whenever that is)

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                              • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                                Ya so we have the last pick before Round 3 now(Whenever that is)
                                And what pick did we give them?

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