June Game Thread

[Namaste]

Hell ya. Why look at a representative sample size showing them to be nearly identical hitters

So you would have preferred Hech batting in that spot instead of Rojas?

It’s a yes or no question. No need for 2 paragraphs that doesn’t answer the question

[fish16]

So you would have preferred Hech batting in that spot instead of Rojas?

It’s a yes or no question. No need for 2 paragraphs that doesn’t answer the question

I would prefer to never have either sub .650 OPS 0 power SS ever hitting in a big situation. He hit a seeing eye single to RF, he's still an awful hitter as evidenced by his entire career.

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It's such a minor thing really, but I love how harold ramirez absolutely busts his ass down the line every single time no matter what.

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wow brice got super lucky there. that goldschmidt blast looked like it was gone and that thing was barely foul.

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the number of chances riddle gets is weird to me. The guy was never any kind of prospect for years and only came up here when we had a weird rash of SS injuries 2 years ago and we keep giving him chance after chance. He cant hit either. It's over 600 ab's and the guy has an OPS even worse than Hech's career numbers. If he was any kind of legit prospect coming up or younger than 27 id feel differently, but there has got to be better options. And why we're trying to force him to CF as if his bat will be any less terrible there is beyond me given the amount of OF's we have got in our system.

His minor league career numbers are the epitome of mediocrity and ever since we had a rash of SS injuries one year we've treated him like somebody who isnt just a depth option on most mlb teams.

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austin brice is infuriating to watch. Just another guy who has somehow failed his way up to the big leagues due to "stuff" that isnt actually all that good. the guy has not been able to throw strikes literally from the time we drafted him. 4.04 ERA, 1.41 WHIP, and 361 walks in 686 minor league innings has no business being in the big leagues for an extended period of time, let alone going on his 4th straight year with mlb roster time.

[Nick]

Holy shit. That might be the first time I've seen that 5-man infield work.

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8-4-3 Double Play.

[fish16]

https://twitter.com/cardinalsgifs/st...50240794681344

Man, Romo made bader look straight up silly on 3 straight sliders. He came in and threw 6 straight sliders to get out of the jam.

[Madman81]

adam conley, folks

[fish16]

so glad we didnt sell high on conley last year in an organization stocked with arms and no intention of competing this year or next.

What exactly was the point of pinch hitting for Romo and taking him out of the game after 6 pitches if we were just going to pinch hit yamamoto?

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if we DFA conley, in order for another team to take him they would have to immediately put him on their 25 man roster right? Cause now would be a great time to try to sneak him through and DFA him and send him back to AAA. He has had no business being in the majors for the entire year.

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on the bright side our rotation is getting pretty close to top 5 in the league in starters era. And gallen is going tomorow against his old team.

[Madman81]

I would prefer to never have either sub .650 OPS 0 power SS ever hitting in a big situation. He hit a seeing eye single to RF, he's still an awful hitter as evidenced by his entire career.

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It's such a minor thing really, but I love how harold ramirez absolutely busts his ass down the line every single time no matter what.

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wow brice got super lucky there. that goldschmidt blast looked like it was gone and that thing was barely foul.

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the number of chances riddle gets is weird to me. The guy was never any kind of prospect for years and only came up here when we had a weird rash of SS injuries 2 years ago and we keep giving him chance after chance. He cant hit either. It's over 600 ab's and the guy has an OPS even worse than Hech's career numbers. If he was any kind of legit prospect coming up or younger than 27 id feel differently, but there has got to be better options. And why we're trying to force him to CF as if his bat will be any less terrible there is beyond me given the amount of OF's we have got in our system.

His minor league career numbers are the epitome of mediocrity and ever since we had a rash of SS injuries one year we've treated him like somebody who isnt just a depth option on most mlb teams.

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austin brice is infuriating to watch. Just another guy who has somehow failed his way up to the big leagues due to "stuff" that isnt actually all that good. the guy has not been able to throw strikes literally from the time we drafted him. 4.04 ERA, 1.41 WHIP, and 361 walks in 686 minor league innings has no business being in the big leagues for an extended period of time, let alone going on his 4th straight year with mlb roster time.

i'd prefer to have a 15 inch cock. that wasn't one of the options daft gave you.

and unnecessarily busting your ass up the line every time for no reason is dumb, fake hustle that's far more likely to injure you than cause something positive to happen

[fish16]

i'd prefer to have a 15 inch cock. that wasn't one of the options daft gave you.

and unnecessarily busting your ass up the line every time for no reason is dumb, fake hustle that's far more likely to injure you than cause something positive to happen

going by their career numbers there is literally 0 difference in their hitting ability so i dont really care which of them is up. If anything id pick rojas because he makes more contact. That doesnt mean having him up is anything other than an awful situation. Would you rather get shot through the brain or through the heart?

And no, its not dumb, he's already beaten out several plays in the short time he's been up. It puts pressure on the other team and injuries happen in sports. they have 5 times max each game to run hard for 90 feet. It's not asking much to bust your ass down the line.

[tjfla]

Should know about Pablo's injury today-positive is likely an AC joint(NO surgery)and out 6 weeks to 2 months. With that being said he is probably going on 60 Day and might be back in Sept. They are NOT gonna rush him back especially with the SP we got

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so glad we didnt sell high on conley last year in an organization stocked with arms and no intention of competing this year or next.

What exactly was the point of pinch hitting for Romo and taking him out of the game after 6 pitches if we were just going to pinch hit yamamoto?

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if we DFA conley, in order for another team to take him they would have to immediately put him on their 25 man roster right? Cause now would be a great time to try to sneak him through and DFA him and send him back to AAA. He has had no business being in the majors for the entire year.

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on the bright side our rotation is getting pretty close to top 5 in the league in starters era. And gallen is going tomorow against his old team.

If Conley gets DFA he gone. The most likely thing is Pablo to 60 Day OR Kinley/Puello gets DFA for Gallen. Then July 2 or 3 Conley is DFA and Riley Ferrell is added

250K in IFA cash is worth ALOT to us and anyone they can DFA after July 2 could get us it(Conley,Kinley,Grandy,Prado,O'Brien,Riddle) U DFA those guys and ask for 250K number in return equals 1 MILLION more to play with. If u DFA them now u get nothing or "cash" in return

[fish16]

I guess a bad team like the orioles or royals might claim conley, but im not sure about that. the guy has been terrible the entire year and there hasnt been a single period where he's been even just below average. He's been straight up consistently bad the entire year, he's not making the minimum and he's arbitration eligible the next 2 years. We are going to end up non-tendering him at the end of the year.

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his velocity is weird this year. He's up another 1/2 mph on his fastball from last year, yet his slider is like 4 mph slower, which is what it was his first 3 years. but then his changeup velocity is up another mph from last year. Any idea why his other pitches have higher velocity from last year and his slider isnt anywhere close to that?

[Namaste]

So you would have preferred Hech batting in that spot instead of Rojas?

It’s a yes or no question. No need for 2 paragraphs that doesn’t answer the question

I knew he wouldn’t be able to answer with a simple Yes or No.

[fish16]

I knew he wouldn’t be able to answer with a simple Yes or No.

probably cause it was a stupid fucking question with no right answer. There is statistically a negligible difference in having either option. Both have been 20% worse than the average hitter over the course of their career going by OPS+, and Rojas would be worse than Hech if he was foolishly forced to play everyday like Hech was rather than being in the minors like Rojas for those 2 years like they both deserved to be.

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If your best argument for Rojas is that he is definitely better than Hech and therefore is a good option, you've lost the argument. I'd rather have Rojas up there than a newborn infant, that doesnt by default make rojas any less of a terrible option. Just means you're choosing between 2 terrible options.

[Madman81]

buddy, there's a difference between busting it down the line for a bang-bang play and hustling for the sake of tryhardedness on a routine out

[fish16]

buddy, there's a difference between busting it down the line for a bang-bang play and hustling for the sake of tryhardedness on a routine out

Not really, chief. Listen guy, it's not a lot to ask to bust your ass down the line 4 times a game, and 4 times is on the high end in today's game where guys are striking out more than ever. Ramirez has already done it multiple times where he's put pressure on the defense and caused errors or gotten infield singles on "routine" outs. He did it on a ground ball to i believe kinsler at 2b in san diego. Pal, on a routine pop up, sure, but if youre hitting a ground ball you better bust your ass down the line to put pressure on the defense to make the play and to possibly get lucky on a bad throw that brings the 1b of the bag or something to that effect. It's really asking the bare minimum out of an athlete.

[Madman81]

this is a dumb take