2025 Game Thread

[Todd]

They traded an entire team of veteran talent outside of Sandy and dont have a single consensus top 50 prospect to show for it

Because the "veteran" talent you are so hung up on either weren't very good or had massive injury issues.

[sports24/7]

Sherman says he will not sell the Marlins in his lifetime.

Well, we know what needs to be done.

If anyone running the league actually gave a shit about the health of the league, they'd strip the team from him.

[fish16]

This is why you can never be taken seriously. Do you have some special power that NO OTHER PERSON ON EARTH has where you can look into the future and determine that the Marlins traded them all for nothing?

And Bendix isn’t building around Wagaman, Bride, Mervis and Hill. You know that. They’re just a part of another (admittedly) extremely frustrating (but very likely) necessary rebuild because of a broke dick owner, terrible drafting and injuries.

give me a break with the prospect hope trafficking bullshit. That got old about 5 years ago when all hope rested on Brinson, Harrison, Sixto, Diaz, Cabrera, Rogers, Lewin Diaz, Burdick, Victor Victor Mesa, etc. It's a way for the organization to get you to look the other way for a future that never comes while they trot out terrible team after terrible team with an embarassing payroll year after year.. Bendix also doesnt have any sort of special power to evaluate talent. They traded an entire team of veteran talent outside of Sandy and dont have a single consensus top 50 prospect to show for it that wasnt already here. Bendix has not done a single thing to earn any benefit of the doubt that he has any ability to pick talent. The headliner of the arraez trade immediately needed major hip surgery and isnt top 100. Jazz went off in New york the second he was traded and we got a guy in Ramirez who is promising but not consensus top 100 guy and might not stick at C. Our farm system is still middling. This is not a better option than keeping those guys around and rebuilding on the fly and not decimating this market even further.

The complete tear down rebuild was not necessary. As ive said numerous times, this is not a better option. Being mediocre with some proven major league talent and a bad farm is a much better option than a truly possibly historically awful team with a mediocre farm system. There is nothing to look forward to in the entire organization.

[Namaste]

Trading them all for nothing certainly doesnt help.

This is why you can never be taken seriously. Do you have some special power that NO OTHER PERSON ON EARTH has where you can look into the future and determine that the Marlins traded them all for nothing?

And Bendix isn’t building around Wagaman, Bride, Mervis and Hill. You know that. They’re just a part of another (admittedly) extremely frustrating (but very likely) necessary rebuild because of a broke dick owner, terrible drafting and injuries.

[fish16]

These are not at all the type of players that Bendix wants to build around, though.

2 one-dimensional players, a guy with tons of potential who got hurt a lot (and was arguably a clubhouse cancer) and the classic underachiever (Sanchez).

are Eric Wagaman, Matt Mervis, Derek Hill, and Jonah Bride players that he is dying to build around? If you cant find ways to make Jazz, Arraez, and Burger useful pieces, that's a bendix issue. No one is saying he needed to build around them as the main stars. No one is arguing that they are top level talents (though i have a good feeling jazz is going to put it all together and really become a star in NY surrounded by actual talent in that lineup), but they are useful, productive pieces that can be a good starting point to start adding to. Trading them all for nothing certainly doesnt help.

[Nick]

Marlins Opening day active payroll is $25.7 million. There are 3 teams that have active payrolls of $250 million plus. How could the MLB look at that and think that’s ok. Something has to be done. It’s a joke.

That number may be before adding the 21 players making the minimum. So it’s more like around $40 million, but still ridiculous.

[Nick]

Marlins Opening day active payroll is $25.7 million. There are 3 teams that have active payrolls of $250 million plus. How could the MLB look at that and think that’s ok. Something has to be done. It’s a joke.

[Nick]

Sherman says he will not sell the Marlins in his lifetime.

Well, we know what needs to be done.

[rmc523]

The problem with this line of thinking is there was nothing to "add to". They had one of the worst offenses in baseball.

By definition, you have to add to the worst offense to get better, no?

So instead, now we have worse than worse? That’s improvement….i guess?

nobody is saying they were good as is and that we needed 1 piece and good to go. The point was, there were useful pieces there, and dollars could’ve been focused on adding to useful pieces (and jettisoning the useless ones). Instead we’ve blown up an already bad lineup and are Now even worse.

don’t worry, 2033 is the year!

[dgriot]

I lean towards fish16 (and in a weird full circle way, lou haha) that if this team just spent to Brewers/Mariners levels, you could squint and see a legit WC contender for a 3-4 year span that leaned on pitching. But Todd's position is defensible and could easily see it as a lost cause even with bottom 10 payroll money.

Unfortunately, I don't have much hope for this rebuild since the ownership is next level miserly + thinking Bendix was just a solid cog/product of the Rays' system who is rudderless on his own.

[Namaste]

Burger, Arraez, Jazz, Sanchez are all productive hitters when used correctly. Burning it down to nothing does not make that better.

These are not at all the type of players that Bendix wants to build around, though.

2 one-dimensional players, a guy with tons of potential who got hurt a lot (and was arguably a clubhouse cancer) and the classic underachiever (Sanchez).

[fish16]

The problem with this line of thinking is there was nothing to "add to". They had one of the worst offenses in baseball.

so getting rid any kind of productive pieces while still having no top tier hitting prospects certainly makes that better right? it's also just not correct to say they had "nothing" to add to. Burger, Arraez, Jazz, Sanchez are all productive hitters when used correctly. Burning it down to nothing does not make that better.

[Todd]

I real owner would’ve taken an approach of spend to help maintain and add to the roster, while rebuilding “underneath” that.

The problem with this line of thinking is there was nothing to "add to". They had one of the worst offenses in baseball.

[Namaste]

I&#8217I’m not giving them any money for the foreseeable future. They don’t deserve it. I’m not even planning on watching any games this year..

Yes, you’ve made that very clear several times.

[rmc523]

It does suck but this team needed to be completely torn apart and start over.

It had been on a perpetual rebuild for going on 20 years and there was little offensive talent on the team.

I real owner would’ve taken an approach of spend to help maintain and add to the roster, while rebuilding “underneath” that.