2024 Game Thread

[Todd]

Roddery Munoz is not good.

[fish16]

Cause, you know, you can predict injuries like that.

Has nothing to do with predicting injuries and everything to do with it being a horrific move the second it happened and looking worse and worse by the day as they go game after game with one of the worst offenses in baseball. But please go and brag about our .500 may some more as we played the worst teams in the league.

[Namaste]

K..

[rmc523]

Can anyone give me a rundown on the Arraez trade? I haven’t seen one in 4.72 seconds….

[fish16]

Can anyone give me a rundown on the Arraez trade? I haven’t seen one in 4.72 seconds….

gladly- the centerpiece played 5 games and is now set to undergo a major surgery to miss the remainder of the year. said centerpiece is only the 5th best prospect in our league worst farm system.

Marsee has a sub .200 BA, .688 OPS and a slugging percentage lower than his on base percentage and his on base percentage isnt great.

Martorella has a .468 OPS since coming over and is also hitting .188.

Meanwhile, Arraez is hitting .341 for the padres with just 7 strikeouts in 175 PA's and since the trade our offense is 29th in WAR, 29th in WRC+, 29th in OBP, and 25th in slugging.

But god forbid we pay someone to play here long term. Why would you when you have the likes of otto lopez and vidal brujan and something called emmanuel rivera to carry this team. at least we also have 0 impact prospects anywhere close to the big leagues.

[Nick]

fish16 has gone full Maddawg.

[fish16]

fish16 has gone full Maddawg.

shall i be positive and sugar coat a team that is 25 games under .500 before july, has one of the worst owners in baseball, a gm that was gifted a top 10 rotation and decided to start a very long term rebuild, and seems to actively make every hitter that gets into the organization immediately worse?

Maddawg was doing it before giving sherman a chance. sherman has had a chance for what, 7-8 years now?. he has failed every opportunity to not be worse than loria. He has 0 viaion, 0 money, and no feel whatsoever for the market he overspent for a team in. There is 0 reason to be any kind of positive about this team in the short term or long term really. it is a complete minor league organization from top to bottom.

Oh, and JJ bleday now has the 6th best WRC+ among qualified outfielders and AJ Puk is 0-8 with a 7 ERA and a 1.9 WHIP. Because of course. And we have 10 guys who we have given at least 50 at bats to this year that have negative wars on baseball reference.

[Nick]

shall i be positive and sugar coat a team that is 25 games under .500 before july, has one of the worst owners in baseball, a gm that was gifted a top 10 rotation and decided to start a very long term rebuild, and seems to actively make every hitter that gets into the organization immediately worse?

Maddawg was doing it before giving sherman a chance. sherman has had a chance for what, 7-8 years now?. he has failed every opportunity to not be worse than loria. He has 0 viaion, 0 money, and no feel whatsoever for the market he overspent for a team in. There is 0 reason to be any kind of positive about this team in the short term or long term really. it is a complete minor league organization from top to bottom.

Oh, and JJ bleday now has the 6th best WRC+ among qualified outfielders and AJ Puk is 0-8 with a 7 ERA and a 1.9 WHIP. Because of course. And we have 10 guys who we have given at least 50 at bats to this year that have negative wars on baseball reference.

Just because you give stats doesn't mean you aren't saying the same shit over and over again. What you're doing is basically the same shit you lambasted lou for, only he made occasional long posts where he repeated himself, you're making the same short posts every day basically.

[fish16]

Just because you give stats doesn't mean you aren't saying the same shit over and over again. What you're doing is basically the same shit you lambasted lou for, only he made occasional long posts where he repeated himself, you're making the same short posts every day basically.

good, it should be a reminder over and over again that they traded their best player for a shit package and started the process of punting the next 3+ years when they had a window for contention the next 2 years with great young pitching. All while not leaning fully into the rebuild and having 1% of vision to trade luzardo and scott and every other tradeable piece in the offseason for a bigger package if this was clearly going to be the direction. Knowing how this team deals with shit, luzardo's velocity drop is the sign of an injury that prevents them from maximizing the asset in the next month.

put me on ignore if you dont want to see it, i dont really give a shit. They should be reminded over and over and over that they are the worst run team in the sport. there should not be a single fan in those stands wasting their money on this shit. I'm not going to discuss the 25 game under .500 team with a single guy with an OPS above .713 on the entire roster and not a single impact hitting prospect anywhere throughout their entire system.

I'm realistic with my posts. Lou posts fairy tales with 7 blank lineup spots as if they have any intention of ever spending money.

And today they start fucking yonny chirinos and continue to jerk around max meyer. there is not a single thing this organization does well outside of mel stottlemeyer

[Nick]

"They"

I forgot the FO peruses this board.

[fish16]

why cant this team even be terrible in a competent manner? I dont think dane myers is much, but if he's going to be up here, why is he getting a total of 54 at bats in close to 60 days? same thing with xavier edwards, why is he being sent down and not given an opportunity when we've given rivera 115 ab's, otto lopez 124 ab's, and nick gordon 174 AB's. Tim anderson is at this point a slap hitting singles hitter with terrible plate discipline, he has a sub .500 OPS in 2 months of action, and he still plays every day. Why on earth is Xavier edwards in AAA? Why on earth is max meyer still in AAA? What the fuck is this team doing?

Also, does nick fortes have the longest leash in baseball or what? the guy is one of the worst hitters in baseball and has been so for each of the last 2 years. He is now a 27 year old with a career .598 OPS, .267 OBP, .331 slugging, .207 average. No amount of defense can make this kind of offense output even remotely acceptable. the guy had a 53 WRC+ last year and its at 16 this year. 16!

[Namaste]

Traded our best player? You mean the guy on the Padres with a 0.7 WAR?

Arraez wasn't a Top 3 player on the Marlins

Sandy, Eury and Jazz (1.6 WAR this year) are all more valuable than Arraez.

Go ahead. Say something incredibly stupid in response to this post.

[fish16]

Traded our best player? You mean the guy on the Padres with a 0.7 WAR?

Arraez wasn't a Top 3 player on the Marlins

Sandy, Eury and Jazz (1.6 WAR this year) are all more valuable than Arraez.

Go ahead. Say something incredibly stupid in response to this post.

Baseball reference had him at .9 WAR more than any other guy on the team last year at 4.9 WAR. He was our best hitter to be clear, not overall player obviously, but Sandy and Eury will throw exactly 0 pitches this year. Jazz has played more than 100 games once in his career. being available is valuable. Arraez had the most WAR in our lineup last year by a full 1.3 WAR according to fangraphs and a full 2.5 WAR according to bball reference. He is a career OPS+ of 120. Jazz is 105. He is going to win his 3rd straight batting title on his 3rd different team. Arraez is flatly a better hitter, and he has a skillset that is unique in modern baseball.

I do not care about Arraez's lack of defensive value at 2nd. They could have stashed him at 1st or at DH long term. They are not in a position to be nitpicking defensive value and giving away flat out really good pure hitters for nothing of substance in return, which is exactly what they did. You can nitpick what Arraez doesnt do all you want, but they gave away a guy who has been about a 3.5 WAR per 500 ab's pace for his career per baseball reference and the best they got is a 19 year old in a ball who is only the 5th best prospect in this shit system and immediately needs major hip surgery.

We do not have a single long term impact hitter either on our major league roster or anywhere close to the big leagues outside of jazz. There are 8 full lineup spots to fill longterm, 9 when they trade jazz. And as you so eloquently put it, this team is missing in your opinion 2 of their best 3 players for the entire year, both of whom will be back next year. To trade a guy for nothing of significance that will impact the team any time soon with a rotation that already includes Sandy, Eury, Luzardo, Weathers, Meyer, Cabrera and Garrett next year is a loser move from a loser franchise. You sound pathetic to defend that kind of organizational philosophy.

They have a good rotation for the next several years, led by 2 guys you just mentioned, sandy and eury. That is all the more reason to not trade one of the 2 actual long term hitting pieces that you do have for an A ball magneuris sierra whose best trait is his speed who immediately needs hip surgery a month later.

you dont have any actual opinion on any topic. If you want to be argumentative based on opinions you dont actually believe for the hell of it and stupidly waste your money on this shit product and defend them no matter what they do, you do you. to be ok with them clearly about to say fuck the potential window they had with the pitching the next few years to embark on yet another 3+ year rebuild is just pathetic and sad

[Namaste]

Baseball reference had him at .9 WAR more than any other guy on the team last year at 4.9 WAR. He was our best hitter to be clear, not overall player obviously, but Sandy and Eury will throw exactly 0 pitches this year. Jazz has played more than 100 games once in his career. being available is valuable. Arraez had the most WAR in our lineup last year by a full 1.3 WAR according to fangraphs and a full 2.5 WAR according to bball reference. He is a career OPS+ of 120. Jazz is 105. He is going to win his 3rd straight batting title on his 3rd different team. Arraez is flatly a better hitter, and he has a skillset that is unique in modern baseball.

I do not care about Arraez's lack of defensive value at 2nd. They could have stashed him at 1st or at DH long term. They are not in a position to be nitpicking defensive value and giving away flat out really good pure hitters for nothing of substance in return, which is exactly what they did. You can nitpick what Arraez doesnt do all you want, but they gave away a guy who has been about a 3.5 WAR per 500 ab's pace for his career per baseball reference and the best they got is a 19 year old in a ball who is only the 5th best prospect in this shit system and immediately needs major hip surgery.

We do not have a single long term impact hitter either on our major league roster or anywhere close to the big leagues outside of jazz. There are 8 full lineup spots to fill longterm, 9 when they trade jazz. And as you so eloquently put it, this team is missing in your opinion 2 of their best 3 players for the entire year, both of whom will be back next year. To trade a guy for nothing of significance that will impact the team any time soon with a rotation that already includes Sandy, Eury, Luzardo, Weathers, Meyer, Cabrera and Garrett next year is a loser move from a loser franchise. You sound pathetic to defend that kind of organizational philosophy.

They have a good rotation for the next several years, led by 2 guys you just mentioned, sandy and eury. That is all the more reason to not trade one of the 2 actual long term hitting pieces that you do have for an A ball magneuris sierra whose best trait is his speed who immediately needs hip surgery a month later.

you dont have any actual opinion on any topic. If you want to be argumentative based on opinions you dont actually believe for the hell of it and stupidly waste your money on this shit product and defend them no matter what they do, you do you. to be ok with them clearly about to say fuck the potential window they had with the pitching the next few years to embark on yet another 3+ year rebuild is just pathetic and sad

5 rambling paragraphs to try to convince us that we traded our "best player" when Jazz's WAR is double Arraez' this year and Sandy and Eury are clearly more valuable than Arraez.

It's also hysterical that you keep mentioning Dillon Head's injury as if it's some "gotcha" on Bendix.

The Marlins are a very hard team to be faithful to. I get it. But it is what it is so either be a part of it and watch it unfold or for the sake of the rest of us, ride off into the sunset and don't go full Maddawg. You never want to go full Maddawg.

[sports24/7]

Has nothing to do with predicting injuries and everything to do with it being a horrific move the second it happened and looking worse and worse by the day as they go game after game with one of the worst offenses in baseball. But please go and brag about our .500 may some more as we played the worst teams in the league.

Come on, man. If the injury has nothing to do with it, why mention it as some kind of evidence that Bendix made a bad trade? We get it, you don’t like the trade. The people on this board didn’t make the trade. We don’t have to be reminded about the same thing over and over again.

As for the .500 May, you yourself said that was evidence that this team isn’t that bad, hence why they shouldn’t have traded Arraez. You, yourself had no issues with the Bleday trade. A trade made by the previous front office, but you keep bringing that up as well:

Again, I get that you want to vent, but isn’t there another outlet for that? Go scream into the void on twitter. That’s what I do. I don’t see the point in posting the same thing over and over again here.