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  • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
    What on earth is the marlins and braves run differential in games between us dating back to the beginning of that Covid season? Because they have absolutely, thoroughly, kicked our ass in every aspect of pretty much every game in that time. Feels like every game has been not only a blow out, but a blow out from the first inning on
    For all the talk about our schedule the rest of the way, it’s nice to know we only have to play this Braves team 3 more times after this weekend. Good riddance.

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    • Fulton is injured and out the year. With his second major arm injury. Sounds familiar from what you literally just posted. I’m keenly aware of what the waste of time is here.

      BTW judging players on system rank is a poor argument point. Players value diverges very differently system to system based on overall talent. You should go with scouting grades as the 12th guy in one system can very easily be a FV45+ and another a FV40 and this is a big big difference. System rank doesn’t tell this story. This is the equivalent of some dummy thinking Cabrera stinks because he’s a 5th SP. That is an irrelevant data point. System rank is an irrelevant data point.

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      • Originally posted by Erick View Post
        This hasn’t been mentioned but what would it take to get Juan Soto, the rental version?
        I think it would be something nuts like… Meyer, Eder, Cappe/Watson/berry, mesa jr, and maldonado.

        But they’d probably be able to get someone else to bite with a higher ranked prospect package so I don’t think they have the goods to do this. Texas, Baltimore, Philly, maybe the Yankees. They have better top end guys for this kind of move.

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        • Originally posted by lou View Post
          Fulton is injured and out the year. With his second major arm injury. Sounds familiar from what you literally just posted. I’m keenly aware of what the waste of time is here.

          BTW judging players on system rank is a poor argument point. Players value diverges very differently system to system based on overall talent. You should go with scouting grades as the 12th guy in one system can very easily be a FV45+ and another a FV40 and this is a big big difference. System rank doesn’t tell this story. This is the equivalent of some dummy thinking Cabrera stinks because he’s a 5th SP. That is an irrelevant data point. System rank is an irrelevant data point.
          Just like Fulton other than the 4 extra years on earth and the two year track record of not being a good major league pitcher. He is not a notable prospect. To act like the royals got some notable return for Chapman is just absurd. Your beloved fangraphs had him 20th in their system rankings last year, and that was before he’s gone on to have a 4.87 xfip, 5.32 era, 7 k/9 and 4.2 bb/9 over his first 64 career innings. He’s not a good pitcher
          Last edited by fish16; 07-01-2023, 05:24 AM.

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          • Holy smokes! Marlins draftee Chris Vallimont (from my hometown Erie, Pa. ... Mercyhurst College was right across the street!) will earn a major league wage for at least a few days after the Orioles just gave him the call. He's not good ... as evidenced by a 5 ERA in AAA this season ... but he will always be able to say that he pitched in the bigs.

            My favorite all-time opportunity to pitch in The Show was a young man named Chad Bentz. When I coached an intermediate league team (13 year olds) in Juneau, Alaska back in the 80's, he was my top draft pick. I wrote a column for the Juneau Empire back then and forecasted that he would be the first Alaskan to play in the major leagues. Like Jim Abbott, he only had one hand. As soon as he delivered a pitch, he would slip his left hand into his glove that was cradled under his right arm! (As a side note, he was rather ineffective back then because he rarely threw three strikes before tossing four balls, but he could really bring it.) He pitched ineffectively in about thirty games for Montreal before winding up his brief career with the ... drum roll ... Florida Marlins in 2005. In two innings for the Fish, he allowed 7 earned runs without recording a walk or a strikeout.

            p.s. Seeing the Orioles so desperate for pitching makes me wonder if the Marlins could turn their two Futures Game boys (Nunez and Monteverde) into Cowser or Westburg.
            Last edited by Lee Stone; 07-01-2023, 01:05 PM.

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            • Archie Bradley gone, Soriano back up. They will clearly be trying to add an impact Righty arm at the deadline

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              • Enjoy your trip back to AAA Eury.

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                • This is just absurd at this point with the braves. It’s like they are stealing signs astros style when they play us. These aren’t normal losses, these are just complete and utter beatdowns. We’ve allowed 3 different games this year to them where they’ve hit 5 hr’s, and they look like they will make it a 4th game today

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                  • Just ridiculous. Don’t even waste more innings with eury against this team.

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                    • Definitely not surprised over here. Maybe surprised that he got unlucky AND he got shelled.

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                      • Should of used Soriano for an opener today! Forget about Perez vs Braves hitters, he was due to give up a bunch of knocks. What the hell is Charlie Morton doing throwing 97???

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                        • Albies offered at strike 3 by the way. Bullshit call but whatever. Marlins now have the perfect reason to take care of the Super 2 situation.

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                          • Hard to launch a comeback when every Marlin hitter is swinging at pitches well out of the zone.

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                            • Fortes is 0 for his last 21 dear God Kim go get a fucking catcher

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                              • I’m gonna do the math at some point, but since that Covid season, would you guys go with the over or under of 5 for number of runs they outscore us by on average in the last 4 years

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