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  • I love that our foundation to next year keeps hitting and it's so much fun. Bryan De La Cruz, Jesus Sanchez, Lewin Diaz and Jazz. I don't care about the rest.

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    • How did we manage not to acquire Keibert Ruiz 12-18 months ago?

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      • Crazy double play there. We got really lucky.

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        • Originally posted by gustavopim View Post
          I love that our foundation to next year keeps hitting and it's so much fun. Bryan De La Cruz, Jesus Sanchez, Lewin Diaz and Jazz. I don't care about the rest.
          I agree that those four give us half a lineup for next season. I'm a fan of Eddy Alvarez as the utility guy too.

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          • jesus sanchez is an absolute stud. Jazz in his first full year showed enough tools to trust him as at least a quality starter moving forward. Lewin Diaz hasn't gotten enough plate appearances but he looks really good with the glove and like he has enough power to start everyday towards the bottom of the lineup next year. They need 2 big additions, 1 in free agency and 1 in a trade, and I think they are a dark horse contender next year.

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            • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
              jesus sanchez is an absolute stud. Jazz in his first full year showed enough tools to trust him as at least a quality starter moving forward. Lewin Diaz hasn't gotten enough plate appearances but he looks really good with the glove and like he has enough power to start everyday towards the bottom of the lineup next year. They need 2 big additions, 1 in free agency and 1 in a trade, and I think they are a dark horse contender next year.
              I'd say more than three. Absolutely need a catcher that can hit. A second baseman. A CF. And possibly a 3B.

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              • Originally posted by Lee Stone View Post

                I'd say more than three. Absolutely need a catcher that can hit. A second baseman. A CF. And possibly a 3B.
                Jazz is their 2b. Anderson is their 3b as long as he is healthy. Lewin will be at 1b and Cooper and Aguilar will split DH if both are here and healthy. They need a CF, a C, and a longterm SS if they want to get one instead of relying on the young top prospects to develop and be ready in 2 years when Rojas is done.

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                • To me you need to bring in five guys (burgers and fries) who will be on the opening day roster next year.

                  Long-Term Catcher
                  Long-Term Center Fielder
                  Short-Term Masher who can play corner OF.
                  Closer
                  Lefty jack of all trades arm for the pen.

                  Finding a long-term catcher and CF in one offseason won't be easy, but I think we have the assets and money to pull it off. Successfully fill those 5 spots with quality and we've got a good squad next year and going forward.

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                  • For reference, here's a list of the trade values of current Marlins. Compiled by Baseball Trade Values website.

                    Rogers 97M

                    Alcantara 57M

                    Lopez 54M

                    Sixto 53M

                    Jazz 43M

                    Meyer 28M

                    Watson 25M

                    Cabrera 22M

                    Luzardo 20M

                    Bender 12M

                    Bleday 12M

                    Eder 11M

                    Perez 10M

                    Rojas 10M

                    Thompson 10M

                    Cooper 9M

                    Burdick 8M

                    Hernandez 8M

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                    • Originally posted by Lee Stone View Post
                      For reference, here's a list of the trade values of current Marlins. Compiled by Baseball Trade Values website.

                      Rogers 97M

                      Alcantara 57M

                      Lopez 54M

                      Sixto 53M

                      Jazz 43M

                      Meyer 28M

                      Watson 25M

                      Cabrera 22M

                      Luzardo 20M

                      Bender 12M

                      Bleday 12M

                      Eder 11M

                      Perez 10M

                      Rojas 10M

                      Thompson 10M

                      Cooper 9M

                      Burdick 8M

                      Hernandez 8M
                      How confident are we in the accuracy of these values? No snark just generally curious because this comes up a lot.

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                      • They are derived at by a formula described on that website ... which you can check out. They take the cost of the players' contracts into consideration, years of control, and of course performance. Obviously, subjectivity comes into play and some of the valuations seem miles off, but it's at least interesting.

                        Here's a recent article on the validity of the valuations based on the recent trade deadline deals: [URL="https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/five-observations-on-the-2021-deadline/"]Five Observations on the 2021 Deadline
                        Last edited by Lee Stone; 09-21-2021, 02:20 PM.

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                        • The Marlins have STUNG about 10 balls that have resulted in an out.

                          How annoying is this Nationals starter?

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                          • Fortes is on fire.

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                            • fortes' rise reminds me of JT just in terms of coming out of nowhere. i have no hope for him to become anything but the out of nowhere trajectory gives some hope. jt was much younger though and he got brought up too early after they were just done with saltalamachhia like 2 weeks into a year.

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                              • fortes seems like a worse receiver than alfaro, so hopefully that's just a short term fluke

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