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  • #46
    Originally posted by tjfla View Post
    Wonder how long we keep Carlos Rodon in the minors when we draft him in 2 years?

    While Polanco is a decent signing,there is no way he should get 3 million dollars. It's only a 1 yr deal cause they are hoping Cox is ready sooner than later.
    Less than how long they kept Beckett. Seeing Rodon first hand, I think he could handle the big leagues mentally right now.
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    • #47
      Mainge, you're right. I'm just annoyed that Stanton is not locked up.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Erick View Post
        The Marlins don't have a history of doing what you said so I really don't get this post.

        Not to mention that Jose Veras probably isn't putting up that ERA and utility guys like Keppinger shouldn't be worth 3/12.

        I'm guessing they didn't sign the 37-year-old Placido Polanco, hoping they could extend him if he hits .300 with 30 2B's, only making him more expensive heading into next year at the age of 38.

        This is why certain people don't like you on here.
        I am saying that is the problem with us,instead of signing a vet and then flipping him for something we can use in the future. We sign Placido Polanco who if we get lucky can last 90 games and then are in the same spot as now.

        Well maybe if I agreed with everyone on every single post they would like me. I would rather tell people real rumors instead of telling them what they wanna hear. This is almost as funny as when I was told-"Don't put up rumors if u can't put the exact guys that are in the deal"

        Fine Fine Erick u are right,the Polanco signing for 2.75 mil was a great deal for us. We didn't overpay for a 37 yr old 3B with a bad back

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        • #49
          Well, they didn't overpay.
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          Like, you can say "I don't like this move" for a thousand different reasons. But the money isn't one of them.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by tjfla View Post
            I am saying that is the problem with us,instead of signing a vet and then flipping him for something we can use in the future. We sign Placido Polanco who if we get lucky can last 90 games and then are in the same spot as now.

            Well maybe if I agreed with everyone on every single post they would like me. I would rather tell people real rumors instead of telling them what they wanna hear. This is almost as funny as when I was told-"Don't put up rumors if u can't put the exact guys that are in the deal"

            Fine Fine Erick u are right,the Polanco signing for 2.75 mil was a great deal for us. We didn't overpay for a 37 yr old 3B with a bad back
            Usually stopgap signings come with a certain risk hence the reason why they're not getting bigger deals.

            Is it not possible that his back is better now? He did well as recently as 2011. He's not exactly Kevin Kouzmanoff we're talking about.

            If he does what he's done prior to 2012, 1 yr/2.75+ incentives is basically a bargain.

            I really don't understand how anyone would look at this deal other than how Mainge said we should be looking at it. "There's no downside and a teeny bit of upside. Why the hell not?"

            Here's a question for you. Since you feel like Polanco is an overpayment, who would you have preferred at 3B among the free agents available?

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            • #51
              Erick, so the Marlins are having a great offseason right? In your opinion,

              They cleared out bad contracts
              Got good young players
              Signed acceptable stopgaps, like Juan Pierre and Placido Polanco

              B+?

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              • #52
                GOTEM
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Erick View Post
                  Here's a question for you. Since you feel like Polanco is an overpayment, who would you have preferred at 3B among the free agents available?
                  I do not think this amount of cash for Polanco matters, the real issue is how they let the situation develop where Placido Polanco is arguably the best name they could come up with to start for a major league baseball team.

                  Don't you think this is a problem? It's not, "well look at who else was out there." It's, "how the fuck did it come to this."

                  Saying that, I would heavily prefer they have gotten someone like Ian Stewart, or honestly just let Kouzmanoff play all jokes aside, because for Stewart, he does have pop and is young enough to maybe develop into a 2nd tier starter, and Kouzmanoff offers some hope for a slugging percentage over .350. Polanco is old, battered, and broken. Maybe they can churn an "acceptable" 500 PA out of him, but for a team completely rebuilding, I think a much much smarter decision would be to find some hail mary guy to just throw out there and play and go for broke. The benefit of Polanco and maybe getting a AA reliever at the deadline if he reverts back to prior years, is just not much "upside" compared to maybe turning someone like Stewart or Kouz into a .250/.325/.450. Even better if it's a platoon split.

                  This move is completely desperate and completely uninspired. They suck at running a franchise. Having Polanco, Pierre, Solano, and Hechavarria all in a starting lineup, is a JOKE. This is why they are clowns.

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                  • #54
                    Polanco, Hechawhatever, Solano, Branlety and LoMo has to be one of the most horrific infields in baseball in terms of offensive talent and overall horrificness. .
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                    • #55
                      If the Marlins had gone with Kouz or an Ian Stewart, people definitely would have ripped them, right?
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Bobbob1313 View Post
                        If the Marlins had gone with Kouz or an Ian Stewart, people definitely would have ripped them, right?
                        And you think in either of those cases, they don't deserve to be ripped? The team next season is fucking awful, are we supposed to applaud them for adding some shitty players to their shitty team because they aren't the absolute shittiest?
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Chewford View Post
                          And you think in either of those cases, they don't deserve to be ripped? The team next season is fucking awful, are we supposed to applaud them for adding some shitty players to their shitty team because they aren't the absolute shittiest?
                          You should read the post above your previous one where that guy was ripping them for not getting those guys.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Chewford View Post
                            Polanco, Hechawhatever, Solano, Branlety and LoMo has to be one of the most horrific infields in baseball in terms of offensive talent and overall horrificness. .
                            How about last season's Oakland A's opening day infield? Jemile Weeks, Cliff Pennington, Kurt Suzuki, Brandon Allen, and Eric Sogard.

                            And that team went on to make the playoffs. It's baseball, you never know. Everyone thinks this team will suck, so we'll probably win 85 games. Maybe Polanco has a bounce back year...or maybe Cox comes up in May and takes the job. Who knows?

                            I get all the negativity, but I'm just tired of it. Now it just seems like some of you are complaining about things just to complain. This Polanco signing is perfectly fine and fills a need.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Bobbob1313 View Post
                              If the Marlins had gone with Kouz or an Ian Stewart, people definitely would have ripped them, right?
                              Yea, but that's the main problem is they created this situation where they have no 3B in the entire organization. They fell back on Dominguez for 4 years and didn't develop anyone else thinking he was their guy, then traded him away (which I don't have a problem with) and were caught holding their dicks when they couldn't turn JJ/whomever into Olt, the best young 3B they could get is a fringe Zach Cox (which was a good get for Mujica to be 'fair') or get someone in free agency. They suck mostly because it came to this. I mean hell, if they really cared they would have told Escobar to STFU and play 3B.

                              But if the options are Polanco or Stewart/Kouz (each scenario is about the same cash), youth wins. There is a reason Theo signed Stewart. Try and develop something! Just try! Personally, I'd still be mad because there should be no reason for it to have come to that, but at least they are giving that playing time to something that could radically jump in value. Polanco, no chance. Pierre, no chance.

                              It's just amazing how poorly run they are. There is absolutely no vision.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by lou View Post
                                Yea, but that's the main problem is they created this situation where they have no 3B in the entire organization. They fell back on Dominguez for 4 years and didn't develop anyone else thinking he was their guy, then traded him away (which I don't have a problem with) and were caught holding their dicks when they couldn't turn JJ/whomever into Olt, the best young 3B they could get is a fringe Zach Cox (which was a good get for Mujica to be 'fair') or get someone in free agency. They suck mostly because it came to this. I mean hell, if they really cared they would have told Escobar to STFU and play 3B.

                                But if the options are Polanco or Stewart/Kouz (each scenario is about the same cash), youth wins. There is a reason Theo signed Stewart. Try and develop something! Just try! Personally, I'd still be mad because there should be no reason for it to have come to that, but at least they are giving that playing time to something that could radically jump in value. Polanco, no chance. Pierre, no chance.

                                It's just amazing how poorly run they are. There is absolutely no vision.
                                I agree about the lack of vision. That is absolutely the Marlins main problem. However, if you think signing Stewart would have been a visionary move, you are nuts. Just because he's 27 and not 36? Who cares? He's not very good. If given the choice of signing either player for a season and betting one gives you a good year, I'm taking Polanco. The player they are developing is Cox. Signing a Polanco prevents them from needing to rush him. Not to mention he can play multiple infield positions. Perhaps Cox is ready in May and you can move Polanco to 2nd.

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