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  • This is so unnecessary.

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    • Originally posted by BigGameFish View Post
      Is anyone on this board of Cuban descent?
      Both sides of my family left Cuba early on. And, I couldn't care less what Ozzie has to say about Castro. The exile community doesn't realize that reactions like this are what marginalize them.

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      • Miami Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen suspended for 5 games over Fidel Castro comments

        By Adam H. Beasley and Patricia Mazzei abeasley@MiamiHerald.com

        The Miami Marlins announced Tuesday morning that the team has suspended manager Ozzie Guillen for five games effective immediately.

        In a news conference on Tuesday, Guillen said he felt like he had betrayed the Latin American community and repeatedly asked for forgiveness "with my heart in my hand."

        "I'm very embarrassed. I'm very sad," Guillen said.

        "I let the ballclub down."

        The Marlins acknowledged the "seriousness of the comments" attributed to Guillen.

        "The pain and suffering caused by Fidel Castro cannot be minimized, especially in a community filled with victims of the dictatorship," the team said in Tuesday's statement.

        Dozens gathered outside Marlins Park to voice their protest to Guillen’s comments, some carrying signs expressing their disgust. One turned his body into a two-sided billboard, writing “No excuses – Fire him now” on one placard and on the other, “Mr. [David] Samson, Do you still keep Guillen if he had said, ‘I love Hitler’?” Samson is the Marlins’ team president. Neither Samson nor owner Jeffrey Loria sat next to Guillen during Tuesday’s grilling by English and Spanish-language media members. More than a dozen video cameras perched atop tripods lined the back of the room, and the 60-some-odd seats Marlins staff set up for reporters were not enough.

        In his nine years as a big-league manager, Guillen has spit out insult after insult in his blunt style, offending, among others, gays, opponents of illegal immigration and even fellow Venezuelans.

        Guillen has managed to get away with his polarizing screeds by offering up contrition after the fact.

        But not even Guillen can hug the third rail of Miami discourse — praising Cuban leader Fidel Castro — without paying a steep price.

        Guillen, the Miami Marlins’ first-year manager, has come under withering criticism locally after saying he has respect for Castro and “I love Fidel Castro,’’ in an interview with Time magazine.

        He has since apologized for those comments, but that hasn’t stopped mushrooming outcry from some South Florida Cuban Americans, a group his ballclub hopes will fill the team’s new Little Havana stadium in coming years.

        “Ozzie is quick at the mouth; always has been,” said Andy Gomez, an assistant provost and senior fellow at the Institute for Cuban and Cuban-American Studies at the University of Miami. “He’s a great manager, but he should stick to something he knows.”

        Gomez — who offered to give Guillen a private tutorial on Castro and Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez (whom Guillen also has previously praised, then later criticized) — stopped short of demanding the coach’s job. Yet other vocal Cuban Americans felt otherwise.

        Miami-Dade Commission Chairman Joe Martinez, harnessing the outrage in the middle of a heated election year, said Monday he wants Guillen to resign — a statement that snowballed as a string of politicians and others echoed the sentiment.

        A small, hardline exile group, Vigilia Mambisa, organized a protest for noon Tuesday at the stadium and plans to boycott the team.

        Guillen, 48, is taking the extraordinary step of flying home in the middle of a six-game road trip to offer an in-person apology. He will face his critics at a press conference at Marlins Park Tuesday morning.

        His comments were the latest in a string of recent public relations stumbles for the Marlins, who just last week opened their new, $634 million ballpark — funded mostly by taxpayers — in Little Havana.

        But it was Guillen’s comments on Castro that prompted the swiftest backlash.

        Spanish-language radio stations popular with older Cuban Americans — a coveted local voting bloc — were inundated with calls from listeners offended by Guillen’s reported remarks.

        “It’s so outrageous, they have to start by buying a new brain for Guillen because every time he opens his mouth, he offends somebody,” said Ninoska Pérez Castellón, an activist and radio host with Radio Mambí.

        Guillen said he has lost sleep over what he said. Yet an apology may not be enough for some politicians gearing up for contested elections.

        Martinez, who is running for county mayor, wrote to Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria on county letterhead calling Guillen’s comments “a slap in the face of those who have fought oppression in this community and everywhere in the world.”

        Martinez’s foray into the controversy prompted Mayor Carlos Gimenez to issue a statement Monday afternoon condemning Guillen’s remarks, but stopping short of asking for his resignation.

        “For too long, the Marlins organization has been the source of controversies in our community, and I now challenge them to take decisive steps to bring this community back together,” Gimenez said.

        Miami City Commission Chairman Francis Suarez also pushed for Guillen’s ouster, while the Florida Legislature’s Hispanic Caucus called for “punitive” action.

        Meanwhile, calls streamed into WQBA-AM (1140)’s evening drive-time show, which spent an hour addressing the controversy. Most listeners said Guillen should leave his job. Bernie Navarro, president of the influential Latin Builders Association, said his organization hopes Guillen will be fired.

        But not everyone was calling for Guillen’s head. A handful of callers said Guillen’s comments were off-base but did not warrant his termination.

        Longtime Spanish-language Marlins announcer Felo Ramirez said he met with Guillen in Philadelphia and heard his heart-felt apology. Ramirez and fellow Marlins broadcaster Yiki Quintana did not wish to speak about the situation Monday, but Ramirez said he felt Guillen was doing the right thing by returning to Miami.

        “Obviously it’s something that was going to affect people a lot and [Guillen] realizes that,” Ramirez said. “I think he will answer everything [in Miami].”

        Uva de Aragon, associate director of the Cuban Research Institute at Florida International University, agreed that Guillen’s remarks were insensitive, but added that many people have fueled the controversy to suit their own motives. She expects it won’t take long for the firestorm to subside.

        Dario Moreno, a pollster who has worked for Gimenez, said the Marlins knew what they were getting when they hired Guillen, long known for his colorful personality and tendency to put his foot in his mouth.

        “Is what he says important? No,” Moreno said. “He’s not an expert in foreign politics. He’s controversial. He is a manager. This should be about sports.”

        Even Chairman Martinez, speaking to radio hosts Roberto Rodríguez Tejera and Helen Aguirre Ferré, said it might be enough to suspend Guillen if he delivers a “sincere” apology.

        And Miami Mayor Tomás Regalado, who voted against the ballpark deal and has repeatedly criticized the Marlins, said he accepted Guillen’s apology.

        “I think it’s a lesson for him, and we should move on,” Regalado said.

        Guillen’s talk-first, think-later nature has made him one of Major League Baseball’s most intriguing — and inflammatory — characters. Guillen won the World Series as manager of the Chicago White Sox in 2005, but his tenure in the Windy City may be remembered more for what he said than what he did.

        Among his most notable provocations:

        • Using a profanity-laced gay slur while referring to a local sports columnist critical of the White Sox. Guillen later apologized to the gay community, but not the writer in question.

        • Speaking out against Arizona’s strict illegal immigration law in 2010. He was quoted as saying that “this country can’t survive without [immigrants]. There are a lot of people from this country who are lazy. A lot of people in this country want to be on the computer and send e-mails to people. We do the hard work.’’

        • Praising Chávez and appearing on his radio show in 2005, only to deny ever speaking to him when he was introduced as the Marlins manager last fall. He has since criticized the longtime Venezuelan president.

        Guillen even admitted Saturday to drinking to excess after every game, claiming he’s done so for more than two decades.

        Still, nothing he has said has caused as much trouble as his interview with Time magazine’s online edition.

        “I respect Fidel Castro,” Time reported Guillen as saying. “You know why? A lot of people have wanted to kill Fidel Castro for the last 60 years, but that mother f----r is still here.”

        Despite his apology, some irreversible damage may already be done, said Patrick Walsh, a sports management professor at the University of Indiana.

        In the past, Guillen’s heresies didn’t much impact his team’s bottom line. This time, they might. A Marlins spokesman said Monday the team would not comment further until Guillen speaks Tuesday.

        “It comes at the worst possible time for the Marlins,” said Walsh, a former professor at UM. “In Miami, it’s the worst possible thing he could have said. People in sports are forgiving, but this a pretty damning statement for the fan base.”

        Miami Herald reporter Andre Fernandez, El Nuevo Herald reporter Melissa Sanchez and the Associated Press contributed to this report.

        Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/1...#storylink=cpy


        His comments were the latest in a string of recent public relations stumbles for the Marlins, who just last week opened their new, $634 million ballpark — funded mostly by taxpayers — in Little Havana.
        Don't let a completely unrelated story get in the way of the Herald mentioning this.

        October headline: 'MARLINS WIN WORLD SERIES IN TAXPAYER FUNDED BALLPARK'
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        Originally posted by BigGameFish View Post
        Is anyone on this board of Cuban descent?
        I am also Cuban American and this is all stupid. Many of our grandparents say similar things about Fidel followed by the same profanities (but in Spanish).
        Last edited by Party; 04-10-2012, 11:10 AM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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        • Release Ozzie Guillen! ¡Libertad a Los Cautivos! Freedom NOW!

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          • I like what he is saying.

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            • A gem:

              @kellyleemiami
              "when u make a mistake this big, u can't sleep, u can't eat. It was stupid." Guillen apologizes for home run sculpture on behalf of Loria.

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              • 5 games is fine. Won't make a difference to the team and hopefully appeases some of these idiots.

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                • Maybe we'll make some better base running calls during those 5 games.

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                  • @ArmandoSalguero
                    Ozzie asked if he thought about resigning and said in Spanglish, "I'm not a queer." Then he corrected in Spanish saying he's not a coward.
                    All right, let's go ahead and schedule the "I'm not homophobic/Gays are not cowards" press conference now. Same time tomorrow work for everyone?
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                    Edit: Never mind, Salguero done fucked up:

                    @ArmandoSalguero
                    Rolled the tape back several times and Ozzie said "quitter" not "queer." My apologies. Oh boy.
                    Last edited by TheMendozaLine; 04-10-2012, 11:38 AM.

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                    • Free Ozzie.
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                      • Originally posted by Ramp View Post
                        5 games is fine. Won't make a difference to the team and hopefully appeases some of these idiots.
                        You know that's probably not going to happen.

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                        • I said some... not all
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                          Originally posted by tr305 View Post
                          Maybe we'll make some better base running calls during those 5 games.
                          I really don't want to get off topic here, as this should have it's own thread but I'm sure that Reyes trying to steal 3b with 2 outs was Reyes' call and Ozzie had nothing to do with it.
                          Last edited by Ramp; 04-10-2012, 11:41 AM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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                          • insanity...no reason to be suspended. none.
                            Originally posted by Madman81
                            Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
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                            • My parents were both born in Cuba and exiled in the 60's. My mother (not a sports fan) thinks he should be fired. I wouldn't say this is fuss over nothing, his comments were ridiculous for his position. But no one will think twice (or once) about this in a month.
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                              • Originally posted by Polky View Post
                                insanity...no reason to be suspended. none.
                                would you say the same if he said similar comments about Hitler?

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