Ozzie Guillen 2012: 5 Game Suspension, Irony Abounds

[tr305]

"I love and respect Hitler for staying and power that long". Yeah i'm sure that would work really well.

[emkayseven]

he wasn't in power for all that long. fdr was president longer than hitler was in charge.

[dim]

I hate when people say stupid things, but this whole situation is sensationalism at its finest.
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"I love and respect Hitler for staying and power that long". Yeah i'm sure that would work really well.

Hitler didn't stay in power as long as Castro... Hitler did his terror over a short period of 11 years. Castro has gone on for decades.

[MiamiHomer]

Salguero tweeted out prior to this tweet that some one asked Ozzie about resigning and Ozzie said "I'm not a quitter..." Salguero thought he heard "queer" so he then tweeted it out (has deleted it since) but it's already out there and people run with it.

Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero

Rolled the tape back several times and Ozzie said "quitter" not "queer." My apologies. Oh boy.

[Beef]

"I love and respect Hitler for staying and power that long". Yeah i'm sure that would work really well.

That'd be a dumb quote. I guess it's because he's not so great at English.

[Valid]

The coverage and lack of context has been pretty annoying. It is reported as Ozzie said he respects and loves Castro and never anything more of what he said. I've got no problem with him being suspended, but media members purposely avoiding giving folks the proper context is dumb. I gon neg tr305 now.

I think it was him saying he "loves" Castro that did it. The other comment where he said he respects him for staying in power for so long could easily be (and is being) taken out of context.

[Namaste]

I'm waiting for someone to post a great Ozzie/Castro gif

[Beef]

I think it was him saying he "loves" Castro that did it. The other comment where he said he respects him for staying in power for so long could easily be (and is being) taken out of context.

The comment about loving Castro can be taken out of context. If he said that he loves Castro and immediately then says what he said about that mother epher staying in power for so long, then those two things may have been meant to be connected. If you remove that second part or take that out of context, you are then taking the "love" part out of context as well.

[CrimsonCane]

THOSE people are irrational. sports reporters should not be. they are presenting a biased story.

You're expecting alot from sport reporters. We aren't talking about the intellectual cream of the crop here. Proper spelling is a challenge for them. Nuance and accuracy are way above most of their heads.

[Valid]

The comment about loving Castro can be taken out of context. If he said that he loves Castro and immediately then says what he said about that mother epher staying in power for so long, then those two things may have been meant to be connected. If you remove that second part or take that out of context, you are then taking the "love" part out of context as well.

Well yeah. That's why I agree with you about the part about the media not being clear about things. It's hard to tell if he said he loves Castro within that same train of thought or if it were separate. Still, people see "I love Castro" and flip a shit.

[Beef]

Yeah. I don't totally blame them for flipping their shit, but they should at least be given more of the information readily available by saying a few more words aloud.

[Erick]

If Ozzie Guillen, the baseball manager, has no business discussing politics, why does his opinion mean so much to others?

This is such a non-issue. It just proves that a lot of people are stupid.

You'd think Barack Obama came out and said he loved Fidel Castro, based on some of the reactions.

[TheMendozaLine]

@joecapMARLINS

Westin Philadelphia security guard just told #Marlins beat writers to leave the team hotel "at the team's request."

Marlins rep said the Westin kicked out the writers, not the team

[Ramp]

Three Things to consider on this Ozzie Tuesday:

Thing 1: That recent Time Magazine interview wasn’t the first time Miami Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen expressed some level of admiration for Fidel Castro.

In a 2008 interview with Men’s Journal, Guillen reportedly named Castro when asked, “Who’s the toughest man you know?’’


“He’s a bull—- dictator and everybody’s against him, and he still survives, has power,” Guillen, then managing the White Sox, told interviewer Rick Telander, a Chicago Sun-Times sports columnist. “Still has a country behind him. Everywhere he goes they roll put the red carpet. I don’t admire his philosophy. I admire him.’’

Do you accept that line of reasoning?

Better question, will Cuban-Americans protesting outside Ozzie’s news conference today at Marlins Park be willing to accept it?

Thing 2: This international incident Guillen has sparked within the opening days of his first regular season as Marlins manager makes me think back to something Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria said about him last week.

This was at Wednesday’s Opening Night in Little Havana, and Loria was talking about Ozzie’s early impact on the team.

“There’s tremendous respect in the clubhouse,” Loria said of his hand-picked skipper. “They rally around him. They find some of his humor very funny. Some of it is. Some of it isn’t.”

The owner did not laugh at his own punch line.

Remember, it was Ozzie’s former boss, White Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf, who called him, “The Hispanic Jackie Mason.”

“That’s what Ozzie is about,” Loria added. “He’s a very honest guy. Tells you what he thinks. Holds nothing back.”

Which can be good and bad, as we’ve been reminded again this week.

Thing 3: During the Marlins Caravan week, back before the start of spring training, Guillen was asked about having to back off from some of his controversial statements while managing the White Sox. He quickly corrected the TV man.

“I never back off what I said. Uh-uh,” Ozzie said. “I step up like a man and take it. Only one time. I called one media member a pretty good name, and I take it like a man. I couldn’t deny it. Nope. I stood up and said, ‘Yes, I did. Sorry. Whoever believes me, believes me.’ ”

That was in June 2006, when he used a homosexual slur to insult then Sun-Times columnist Jay Mariotti, a frequent critic of Guillen.

League-mandated sensitivity training followed for Guillen.

Something similar might be appropriate in this case as well.

“I’m the same,” Guillen said in February. “I’m 48 years old. I am who I am, and nobody is going to change me. My wife hasn’t been able to change me for 30 years. I don’t think Miami is going to change me.”

And there was this as well, in reference to his critics.

“I never throw the first punch,” Ozzie said that day. “I never did that and I never will. But when I throw my second punch, watch out. I want to get some blood.”

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports...ro-before.html

[Beef]

If Ozzie Guillen, the baseball manager, has no business discussing politics, why does his opinion mean so much to others?

This is such a non-issue. It just proves that a lot of people are stupid.

You'd think Barack Obama came out and said he loved Fidel Castro, based on some of the reactions.

If someone doesn't have business doing something, but then does something and makes an asshole of themselves, you can't blame people for thinking that person is an asshole.

Mibs has no business saying any baseball player is not good or is disappointing, but she does it. When she does it, it is still annoying.

It doesn't have to take a political leader to make people upset. If my friend says something very anti-semitic, I will be upset with him even though he's not a Barack Obama.