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  • #91
    Why? What's the fucking point of it when the only reason that might occur is because the players aren't fucking producing up to their standards.

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    • #92
      Pretty sure if you sign another contract your previous one is void, but I could be wrong.
      poop

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      • #93
        Originally posted by MiamiHomer View Post
        Why? What's the fucking point of it when the only reason that might occur is because the players aren't fucking producing up to their standards.
        The last thing we need is an owner who plays arm-chair GM. By making themselves heard it puts pressure on ownership to stay out. Edwin is clearly a players' manager. Whether that is what this team needs is up to the FO--not Loria.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Bobbob1313 View Post
          Pretty sure if you sign another contract your previous one is void, but I could be wrong.
          You're kind of right.

          You are guaranteed the money under your previous contract, but you cannot "double earn."

          Let's say your contract guaranteed you $1,000,000. If you're relieved of your duties (and not fired for cause) you get that $1,000,000 from previous employer. If you then go out and get a new job, for simplicity's sake, let's say it's the exact same job description with the exact same expectations and duties, for every dollar you earn from your new employer, the previous employer owes you one dollar less. To expand the hypothetical, say the $1,000,000 employee gets a new job for $750K. The previous employer only owes $250K now, not the full $1,000,000. If you get a job for a $1,000,000 or more, the previous employer owes nothing.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Claudio Vernight View Post
            The last thing we need is an owner who plays arm-chair GM. By making themselves heard it puts pressure on ownership to stay out. Edwin is clearly a players' manager. Whether that is what this team needs is up to the FO--not Loria.
            At this point I'm banking on it being a unanimous decision with the type of stretch they've crapped together here. They picked the wrong time to make those sentiments known.

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            • #96
              I think it really comes down to the locker-room. I don't think you can fault Edwin for this stretch; this is just absurd. What I think you can have a problem with is if the player's have tuned him out. If Gammons' tweet is to be believed (and why not) then it sounds like they're already looking at him as a lame-duck.

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              • #97
                Yeah to blame Edwin for them going 25-for-900 with RISP is just dumb but yeah, it's gotten beyond sick at this point.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Claudio Vernight View Post
                  The last thing we need is an owner who plays arm-chair GM. By making themselves heard it puts pressure on ownership to stay out. Edwin is clearly a players' manager. Whether that is what this team needs is up to the FO--not Loria.
                  Loria should be allowed to do whatever he wants. Especially when his team goes 1-16 in a month. It's his business.

                  I want Edwin to stay, but the players even talking at this point is ridiculous. If he gets fired, it's because the players have been playing like shit. If they started winning some games, they wouldn't have to talk about this.

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                  • #99
                    A good business owners knows when to leave certain decisions to those are who better suited to make an informed decision.

                    This isn't a small business. It's an entity worth $400 million.

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                    • Originally posted by Claudio Vernight View Post
                      A good business owners knows when to leave certain decisions to those are who better suited to make an informed decision.

                      This isn't a small business. It's an entity worth $400 million.
                      Again, I'm not for it, but a couple of firings could be the informed decision, at this point.

                      The team is now 1-16 in June.

                      This would no longer be an overreaction (as I believe the Mallee firing was); this is basically a good time to make a decision.

                      The Marlins are going into a new stadium next year. The last thing the owner wants is a laughable year heading into the new stadium.

                      This last month has been laughable.

                      I'm not saying it is the answer, but sometimes change for the sake of change can be the answer.

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                      • I would have no problem if Loria went over the baseball guys' heads and fired the entire coaching staff. We obviously aren't this bad but this is unbelievable right now. Almost surprised it hasn't happened yet.

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                        • Yup, I agree with Ramp

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