Season Super Game Thread

[tjfla]

Williams isn't that good despite this season. That's some Pirates magic. He is a Koehler. I agree though, still annoying as club controlled Koehler's are useful.

The only ones I think that kill me are Hand, Castillo, Paddack, and maybe DeScalfani (if he can stay healthy). Those 4 guys would be very useful for obvious reasons. I would feel great dropping Castillo and Paddack on the current staff and drafting bats first 10 picks

Thats what happens when idiots are in charge of scouting.

They refused to make Hand a RP AND used 2 options for NO reason.
They considered Castillo a RP ONLY and shopped him to every team for a ML Ready SP
They traded Paddack because the Scouting Dept was afraid to tell Jeff NO. Paddack for Rodney was all Jeff

Thing that sucks about Paddack deal is our FO told SD hell no and SD's people called Jeff personally to sell him on the idea. Was pretty common knowledge around baseball that if u got Jeff Loria's ear it was game over

Williams is NOTHING special but most time teams just send over cash or give the other team a tip not a player but Jeff was so cheap he did it with Pitt and CWS

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2012 Brad Hand pitched in 1 game
2013 Brad Hand pitched in 1 game in May then NOTHING till Sept 6

Years past Jeff would have had Neidert,Yamamoto,Monte,Isan and others up for NO reason. Just burn a option year

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https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/mi...pects-updated/

Rotographs lists the current top ten Marlin prospects. Hilarious! Maybe one player deserves to be there, Neidert. The rest of the top five? I'd say pitchers Yamamoto, Beggs, Eveld and Austin Dean. Admittedly, that's based on only the reality of their performance over the past season.

Thank God u are not in the scouting dept. 3 future RP pitchers and a guy who hasn't looked great in Majors

[Nick]

Wow Harrison not in the top 10, behind the likes of Zac Gallen. Woof.

[fish16]

Wow Harrison not in the top 10, behind the likes of Zac Gallen. Woof.

Him not being in there stood out to me even off the terrible year, but Zac Gallen isnt a bad prospect at all. He had a very solid year and looks like he has a good future in the back end of a rotation.

Diaz also wasnt in there.

My top 10 would be Alcantara, Neidert, Diaz, Harrison, Rogers, Scott, Guzman, Cabrera, Garrett, Devers/Johnson/Torres (any order)

[Namaste]

Hey another error at 3B for Brian Anderson

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The Yelich trade has good potential to be historically bad.

[AdamRavs]

Hey another error at 3B for Brian Anderson

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The Yelich trade has good potential to be historically bad.

The Miggy trade is hard to top.

[Namaste]

The Miggy trade is hard to top.

Cabrera didn’t win the MVP the season after he was traded. In fact, he didn’t win the MVP until 4 or 5 years later.

[tjfla]

Wow Harrison not in the top 10, behind the likes of Zac Gallen. Woof.

Another year of AAA and I think Gallen is a better Trevor Richards. Our issue is we have like 6 #4/5 types and only like 2 #3 or better

The guys to watch in 2019 are Rogers/Garrett/Yamamoto/Guzman. All could be very good and Yamamoto/Guzman are ML RP right now in my opinion but big 2019 in Jax and they could be #3 or better too

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Oct is gonna be big for us

Try to sign VV for 4.25 million

If Miami signs JT they don't need to draft a Rutschman or Longliers in the draft and can go with another young bat impact like Hinds/Abrams/Witt Jr at #3
If JT says NO they will trade him for a Yelich type package(4 or 5 guy package) in Nov and draft Rutschman or Longliers and move them thru the system FAST

I would wait till Nov to make a TOP 10 list because alot might change for us

[Namaste]

YES LETS DO JT FOR A YELICH TYPE PACKAGE

2019: JT WINS MVP AND WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF KIDS WHO STRIKE OUT CONSTANTLY

[rmc523]

YES LETS DO JT FOR A YELICH TYPE PACKAGE

2019: JT WINS MVP AND WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF KIDS WHO STRIKE OUT CONSTANTLY

Sign me up!
















NOT

[lou]

YES LETS DO JT FOR A YELICH TYPE PACKAGE

2019: JT WINS MVP AND WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF KIDS WHO STRIKE OUT CONSTANTLY

Don't you kind of want that to happen though?

Could you imagine back-back-back traded MVP's in basically 1 calendar year. That would be fun.

And maybe Mark Cuban would then come and save the franchise.

[Lee Stone]

Gallen will be better than Richards? It's fine to think it, but care to explain? A .281 BAA and a 1.47 WHIP alone seem like disqualifiers. Even Neidert will be hard-pressed to match Trevor's MilB numbers. Richards had six starts for the Baby Cakes this season, each and every one a quality start (at least six innings and two ER or less). Gallen had 11 of those in 25 starts.

Guzman is ML ready? Jorge Guzman? His 4+ ERA at Jupiter would likely be at least a run higher if he wasn't in the Florida State League. He has a long, long way to go. Like Alcantara, his hype was tied to velocity only. At some point they have to learn how to pitch.

On Yelich. I don't think anyone thought MILW was getting the best of the deal at the time. Few thought Brinson, Harrison, and Diaz would all be as shaky as they showed this season. Personally, I liked the trade a lot. Yelich was a bland face in Miami. Runners took advantage of his noodle arm and slow release. I thought his number should have had three digits: 463. Seemed like every time he came to bat with a runner on first he hit into a 4-6-3 DP. I'm happy for him ... but couldn't care less that he's gone. Jordan Yamamoto is looking great and will be pitching in the AFL in October.

[Namaste]

Don't you kind of want that to happen though?

Could you imagine back-back-back traded MVP's in basically 1 calendar year. That would be fun.

And maybe Mark Cuban would then come and save the franchise.

Of course I want that to happen. That would be amazing.

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There’s no way a team has traded back to back to back MVP’s in the history of baseball.

[dim]

Gallen will be better than Richards? It's fine to think it, but care to explain? A .281 BAA and a 1.47 WHIP alone seem like disqualifiers. Even Neidert will be hard-pressed to match Trevor's MilB numbers. Richards had six starts for the Baby Cakes this season, each and every one a quality start (at least six innings and two ER or less). Gallen had 11 of those in 25 starts.

Guzman is ML ready? Jorge Guzman? His 4+ ERA at Jupiter would likely be at least a run higher if he wasn't in the Florida State League. He has a long, long way to go. Like Alcantara, his hype was tied to velocity only. At some point they have to learn how to pitch.

On Yelich. I don't think anyone thought MILW was getting the best of the deal at the time. Few thought Brinson, Harrison, and Diaz would all be as shaky as they showed this season. Personally, I liked the trade a lot. Yelich was a bland face in Miami. Runners took advantage of his noodle arm and slow release. I thought his number should have had three digits: 463. Seemed like every time he came to bat with a runner on first he hit into a 4-6-3 DP. I'm happy for him ... but couldn't care less that he's gone. Jordan Yamamoto is looking great and will be pitching in the AFL in October.

Definitely incorrect. Yelich was a cost controlled, consistent 3.5+ WAR player (who jumped again this year) prior to even the prime years of his career. It got mentioned numerous times that players like Yelich don't get put on the market by championship organizations. I do enjoy seeing somebody talk shit about the 2019 NL MVP in all likelihood.

I like Richards but saying he should be better than Nick Neidert is just not right.

I do agree with the Guzman comment and do believe that pitch speed too often takes a priority over pitch efficiency. Sure the hard throwers become the aces, but they flame out far more often for a reason. I do think Alcantara has looked better than expected in his short MLB tenure.

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I will also say Gallen and Richards are very similar levels of prospect. Either one could end up being better than the other. Gallen is more likely to be a long term MLB pitcher while Richards is probably more likely to become something more than a #3. So with those 2 it really is all about preference in prospect types.

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Don't you kind of want that to happen though?

Could you imagine back-back-back traded MVP's in basically 1 calendar year. That would be fun.

And maybe Mark Cuban would then come and save the franchise.

But it fits with the Marlins MO of being the farm system for the rest of the major leagues.

Cabrera--->Ramirez----->Stanton------>Yelich------->Realmuto

It's a beautiful cycle.

[lou]

Of course I want that to happen. That would be amazing.

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There’s no way a team has traded back to back to back MVP’s in the history of baseball.

Can we just say sports and not baseball?

And I mean at any level, even tee-ball.

[Lee Stone]

With an .807 OPS last season, Yelich ranked 64th among MLB regulars. His performance had dropped off a little from 2016. No one could have foreseen a power surge or a .320 BA. Attempting to upgrade the overall roster was a good move.