Season Super Game Thread

[fish16]

They aren’t close in value for a number of reasons. Archer has better peripherals and a phenomenal contract and a much longer track record of success

[tjfla]

Straily is NOT getting a significant return but teams are interested-Sea/SF/Oak. Could see 1 Top 5-10 prospect,1 mid prospect and IFA cash

The JT deal could come together but teams disagree on secondary names. Washington is offering Robles/C/1 other Prospect and Miami is asking for Robles/Kieboom/Kieboom. They are talking but not close like Mish says

Baltimore got another 250K for Victor Victor meaning Miami needs 2 MILLION

Looks like LAD is looking to do something with Texas. Houston,Seattle,Arizona,Cubs,Phillies,Braves,Pitt still in on our RP's but NONE willing to pay high price yet(Maybe they will if LAD pays up for Texas guys). Ziegler market is Boston,Cubs,Clev,Houston,Seattle and they are fighting for him!!!

Maybin,Bour,Castro are getting looks from NYY,Boston,Houston,SF but nothing yet

DD still getting looks from Clev,Boston,Cubs,Oak,Houston

Milwaukee/Colorado also still looking at our guys but seem to be off of us

[fauowls44]

Straily is NOT getting a significant return but teams are interested-Sea/SF/Oak. Could see 1 Top 5-10 prospect,1 mid prospect and IFA cash

The JT deal could come together but teams disagree on secondary names. Washington is offering Robles/C/1 other Prospect and Miami is asking for Robles/Kieboom/Kieboom. They are talking but not close like Mish says

Baltimore got another 250K for Victor Victor meaning Miami needs 2 MILLION

Looks like LAD is looking to do something with Texas. Houston,Seattle,Arizona,Cubs,Phillies,Braves,Pitt still in on our RP's but NONE willing to pay high price yet(Maybe they will if LAD pays up for Texas guys). Ziegler market is Boston,Cubs,Clev,Houston,Seattle and they are fighting for him!!!

Maybin,Bour,Castro are getting looks from NYY,Boston,Houston,SF but nothing yet

DD still getting looks from Clev,Boston,Cubs,Oak,Houston

Milwaukee/Colorado also still looking at our guys but seem to be off of us

I wold trade Ziegler to whoever offers the most IFA money. Barch isn't good and got $250K....if they can get $1 million or more for Ziegler I would do it. The prospect return won't be much anyway.

[tjfla]

I wold trade Ziegler to whoever offers the most IFA money. Barch isn't good and got $250K....if they can get $1 million or more for Ziegler I would do it. The prospect return won't be much anyway.

Cubs and Seattle offers probably would be for mid level prospect and IFA. Cubs are trying for a bigger splash(Conley). Atlanta,Oak,Sea,LAD,Cubs,SF would probably include IFA pool cash

[sports24/7]

If they don't take a Robles package for JT, they had better re-sign him.

[tjfla]

If they don't take a Robles package for JT, they had better re-sign him.

Yep they aren't getting a Robles,C(Severino,Read,Gushue,Reetz),1 prospect like Raquet,Sanchez,Alastre type offer again. If they say NO and he rejects extension they messed up

The offer is on the table(NAMES are not set for C or other prospect) but Miami is sticking to Robles and Kieboom Brothers. Washington is WILLING to increase offer to 4 or 5 guys for JT but Miami hasn't come off what they want

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If they get something like

Mia-Robles/C/Crowe/Jose Sanchez/Project Arm
Wash-JT

I would not be mad at all

[lou]

Straily is NOT getting a significant return but teams are interested-Sea/SF/Oak. Could see 1 Top 5-10 prospect,1 mid prospect and IFA cash

The JT deal could come together but teams disagree on secondary names. Washington is offering Robles/C/1 other Prospect and Miami is asking for Robles/Kieboom/Kieboom. They are talking but not close like Mish says

Baltimore got another 250K for Victor Victor meaning Miami needs 2 MILLION

Looks like LAD is looking to do something with Texas. Houston,Seattle,Arizona,Cubs,Phillies,Braves,Pitt still in on our RP's but NONE willing to pay high price yet(Maybe they will if LAD pays up for Texas guys). Ziegler market is Boston,Cubs,Clev,Houston,Seattle and they are fighting for him!!!

Maybin,Bour,Castro are getting looks from NYY,Boston,Houston,SF but nothing yet

DD still getting looks from Clev,Boston,Cubs,Oak,Houston

Milwaukee/Colorado also still looking at our guys but seem to be off of us

Four divisions have major competition (SEA/OAK, ATL/PHI/WASH, CHC/MIL, LAD/ARI/COL) and added WC insanity in the NL with PHI/ATL/WASH/CHC/MIL/STL/PITT/LAD/ARI/COL/SF all able to make a case less then 6 games out with a ton of games left. Also ignores teams like SD/TB who want to acquire players with control.

They are cumulatively going to make a ton of moves. There are 12-15 buyers and the same pressure they are feeling to acquire guys, swings back against the Marlins when the Marlins have their back against the wall of moving guys before the deadline to look at the future. That's when a deal happens. It's pay the extortion price for guys with a ton of control (i.e. Mejia), or wait and see who blinks.

The Realmuto strategy is actually what we all want them to consistently do. It's working with Robles on the table.

They probably already know a non-Kieboom (the good one) deal the Nats will take and are waiting for them to hopefully blink if ATL/PHI makes a major acquisition.

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Yep they aren't getting a Robles,C(Severino,Read,Gushue,Reetz),1 prospect like Raquet,Sanchez,Alastre type offer again. If they say NO and he rejects extension they messed up

The offer is on the table(NAMES are not set for C or other prospect) but Miami is sticking to Robles and Kieboom Brothers. Washington is WILLING to increase offer to 4 or 5 guys for JT but Miami hasn't come off what they want

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If they get something like

Mia-Robles/C/Crowe/Jose Sanchez/Project Arm
Wash-JT

I would not be mad at all

They can definitely live with that.

Especially if they can turn the good relievers into W. Smith and Lux, and turn Dietrich, Ziegler, Straily, and Castro into more arms.

[tjfla]

Four divisions have major competition (SEA/OAK, ATL/PHI/WASH, CHC/MIL, LAD/ARI/COL) and added WC insanity in the NL with PHI/ATL/WASH/CHC/MIL/STL/PITT/LAD/ARI/COL/SF all able to make a case less then 6 games out with a ton of games left. Also ignores teams like SD/TB who want to acquire players with control.

They are cumulatively going to make a ton of moves. There are 12-15 buyers and the same pressure they are feeling to acquire guys, swings back against the Marlins when the Marlins have their back against the wall of moving guys before the deadline to look at the future. That's when a deal happens. It's pay the extortion price for guys with a ton of control (i.e. Mejia), or wait and see who blinks.

The Realmuto strategy is actually what we all want them to consistently do. It's working with Robles on the table.

They probably already know a non-Kieboom (the good one) deal the Nats will take and are waiting for them to hopefully blink if ATL/PHI makes a major acquisition.

Very true-6PM Tonight and ON is going to be Very Very busy!! Our RP are also going to rise in value as soon as Texas guys are off the board

Ya thats what people think too. Soon as Philly/Atl make a move-Washington will blink and say fine Robles plus 3 or 4 guys for JT instead of Kieboom Brothers

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Four divisions have major competition (SEA/OAK, ATL/PHI/WASH, CHC/MIL, LAD/ARI/COL) and added WC insanity in the NL with PHI/ATL/WASH/CHC/MIL/STL/PITT/LAD/ARI/COL/SF all able to make a case less then 6 games out with a ton of games left. Also ignores teams like SD/TB who want to acquire players with control.

They are cumulatively going to make a ton of moves. There are 12-15 buyers and the same pressure they are feeling to acquire guys, swings back against the Marlins when the Marlins have their back against the wall of moving guys before the deadline to look at the future. That's when a deal happens. It's pay the extortion price for guys with a ton of control (i.e. Mejia), or wait and see who blinks.

The Realmuto strategy is actually what we all want them to consistently do. It's working with Robles on the table.

They probably already know a non-Kieboom (the good one) deal the Nats will take and are waiting for them to hopefully blink if ATL/PHI makes a major acquisition.

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They can definitely live with that.

Especially if they can turn the good relievers into W. Smith and Lux, and turn Dietrich, Ziegler, Straily, and Castro into more arms.

Rumblings that LAD and Texas are talking a deal so might take us out

Ya think Washington would be fine with something like that and Miami gets Robles/Catcher/Crowe then 2 lotto tickets in 18 yr old SS/3B(Sanchez) and the usual project arm

Still hearing

DD-Clev
Ziegler-Boston
Conley-Cubs
Straily-Oak/SF/Sea?
Bearclaw-?? Teams that missed out on Texas arms like Atlanta/Pitt/Arizona. Would prefer LAD but Arizona could be interesting-Chisholm OR Pavin Smith,Daulton Varsho,Emilio Vargas. Other guys in system like Leyba/Yoan Lopez/Drew Ellis

[sports24/7]

Jim Bowden said Washington offered Robles and Spencer Kieboom, and that Miami turned it down. I'd probably rather another prospect or two, but I'd have a hard time passing on even Robles straight up, honestly.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/video/...-j-t-realmuto/

[tjfla]

Jim Bowden said Washington offered Robles and Spencer Kieboom, and that Miami turned it down. I'd probably rather another prospect or two, but I'd have a hard time passing on even Robles straight up, honestly.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/video/...-j-t-realmuto/

Bowden and Keith Law are probably the 2 worst guys on Marlins rumors. The offer that was made and TURNED down was Robles/C(heard they gave us 4 names)/low level prospect. Our counter was Robles AND Kieboom Brothers

The thought is if Miami really wants to get this done it can happen with Robles and 3/4 others(No Kiebooms)for JT. Washington is ready to do this

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Jon HeymanVerified account @JonHeyman · 12m12 minutes ago

contenders still seeking relief: red sox, braves, cubs, mariners, phillies, pirates, dbacks, dodgers. many mentioned on market: yates, kela, iglesias, diekman, steckenrider, barraclough, conley, clippard, loup, givens, romo, alvarez, duke, ziegler, avilan, axford, rodney.

[Lee Stone]

Jim Bowden said Washington offered Robles and Spencer Kieboom, and that Miami turned it down. I'd probably rather another prospect or two, but I'd have a hard time passing on even Robles straight up, honestly.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/video/...-j-t-realmuto/

Agree that Robles alone is fair ... but C Raudy Read would be a valued add-on (17 HR in 400 ab last year! Has any Marlin catching prospect ever hit so many in a season? I sure don't recall anything close).

[tjfla]

Agree that Robles alone is fair ... but C Raudy Read would be a valued add-on (17 HR in 400 ab last year! Has any Marlin catching prospect ever hit so many in a season? I sure don't recall anything close).

I know u love Read but Marlins aren't as high on him even tho they would still take him. PED's probably helped with the power. Severino could be a ML backup for 10 years and Gushue/Reetz have some talent. The Catcher in the deal is NOT what Miami is after

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I wish we would talk more with Oakland. Could use Straily/DD and another RP(Conley/Bearclaw/Ziegler)

They have
C Murphy
SP Luzardo,Logan Shore
OF Beck,Lazarito
SS Mateo,Richie Martin,Nick Allen,Merrell,Brito

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Ken RosenthalVerified account @Ken_Rosenthal

#Brewers, after adding Soria and Moustakas, continue to seek upgrades, per sources. Interested in adding a starting pitcher and a catcher.

Marlins offered Straily and Holaday but no real talks. Still possiblilty

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Also a note on Denbo at Nats vs Rays AAA game. He was there looking at Robles but also at Durham. Seems TB called on our controllable RP so he was down looking at Arroyo/Kean Wong. Marlins scouts were there the past 2 days actually

[flamarlins93]

If the do trade Ziegler to Boston I would like to see them get Brannen in any deal. Maybe him one more player and whatever IFA cash they can get.

[sports24/7]

I don’t see the need for them to land a catching prospect. Just take the best package you can get. Figure that out later. Catching prospects are so volatile anyway.

[rmc523]

Astros acquired Roberto Osuna from the Blue Jays.