Season Super Game Thread

[Nick]

This season definitely continues to prove how meaningless spring training stats are. Brinson and Dietrich both absolutely mashed in the spring, and they've been terrible with the bat. Bour did nothing in the spring and once again looks to be on his way to a very good statistical season. (until he gets injured)

[Lee Stone]

This season definitely continues to prove how meaningless spring training stats are. Brinson and Dietrich both absolutely mashed in the spring, and they've been terrible with the bat. Bour did nothing in the spring and once again looks to be on his way to a very good statistical season. (until he gets injured)

I am probably guilty of taking spring training too seriously. I've always looked at it as evidence of hard work in the off season. Bour is an interesting study this year, given that he is walking twice as often as last season. It isn't that he's being pitched around by any means; he seems to take a fat pitch down the middle for strike one in nearly every at bat. It's a different approach. Dietrich is the opposite. He apparently wants to add the power lost in Stanton and Ozuna and he and the team are suffering for it. Recognizing his approach, opponents are shifting on him defensively and still, he refuses to go to the opposite field.

[fish16]

The dietrich thing has to be directly related to him getting so bulky like they were talking about before the year. He used to be a smaller guy with good pop for his size, but now he's a bigger guy with normal pop for his size but has sacrificed the other parts of his game. He's the biggest dissapointment of the year thus far.

[Namaste]

LOL how did Maybin get tagged out at 3B on a ground ball to 3B???

[Lee Stone]

Caleb Smith on the hill tonight. Last four starts: 25 IP, 14 H, 4 W, 31 K, and just 4 R. Those are ace numbers and importantly the most recent.
Of note: Trevor Richards last four starts: 25 IP, 15 H, 5 W, 30 K, and just 4 R. (Three of those starts in AAA, one for Marlins.)
I see a break in the clouds.

[kusch]

Why are the Marlins never mentioned in the upcoming international free agents?

[Lee Stone]

Why are the Marlins never mentioned in the upcoming international free agents?

I'd guess it's by and large because they haven't been a serious player in that market. That may change once some big contracts come off the books and TV revenue rises, but hard to project.

[tjfla]

Why are the Marlins never mentioned in the upcoming international free agents?

Because Jeff Loria was a cheapskate. Will change starting in 2019. 80% of the 2018 IFA guys are already committed to teams when Jeter bought the teams which means hard to sign guys.

[Lee Stone]

[QUOTE=tjfla;391015]Because Jeff Loria was a cheapskate. Will change starting in 2019. 80% of the 2018 IFA guys are already committed to teams when Jeter bought the teams which means hard to sign guys.[/QUOTe

Prado, Chen, Ziegler, Tazawa, Volquez and Stanton didn't find Loria to be cheap at all.

[tjfla]

[QUOTE=Lee Stone;391016]

Because Jeff Loria was a cheapskate. Will change starting in 2019. 80% of the 2018 IFA guys are already committed to teams when Jeter bought the teams which means hard to sign guys.[/QUOTe

Prado, Chen, Ziegler, Tazawa, Volquez and Stanton didn't find Loria to be cheap at all.

ALL ML guys. He had no desire to build thru the system-his idea was sign ML FA and trade prospects for ML players. Ozuna,Urena,Cabrera all sign for around 100K each

[Nick]

Because Jeff Loria was a cheapskate. Will change starting in 2019. 80% of the 2018 IFA guys are already committed to teams when Jeter bought the teams which means hard to sign guys.

Prado, Chen, Ziegler, Tazawa, Volquez and Stanton didn't find Loria to be cheap at all.

Might want to compare what those contracts are worth and what Jeff Loria actually paid on those contracts, and then come back to us on whether Loria was a cheapskate.

[tjfla]

Might want to compare what those contracts are worth and what Jeff Loria actually paid on those contracts, and then come back to us on whether Loria was a cheapskate.

Could also add that he would tell Stan Meek to draft college guys after Round 11 so he didn't have to pay out big bonuses. U can pay UP to $125,000 on guys after Rd 10 without it counting against the pool. That is one thing I can't wait to see in this years draft-if Jeter lets Denbo draft talent or we keep seeing 23 yr old players from Rd 13-28

Teams like Boston/Cubs/Houston and others who draft good all draft BPA who will sign for $125,000 in Rd 11-40

[Lee Stone]

Might want to compare what those contracts are worth and what Jeff Loria actually paid on those contracts, and then come back to us on whether Loria was a cheapskate.

I don't follow. Loria gave them all overly generous guarantees. I don't think the fact that he sold the team and was no longer responsible for paying them is relevant.

[Lee Stone]

According to Joe Frisaro, Elieser Hernandez is replacing J. Garcia in the rotation and starting tonight. C Smith goes tomorrow. The whole Hernandez situation is confusing. I realize the Marlins lose him if he doesn't stay on the roster, but why should they care? Hernandez hasn't pitched higher than A+ ball and failed to distinguish himself there. He's done nothing this year to suggest he's a keeper ... not that I've seen. Will hope for his best, but I'm disappointed by this news. As far as Garcia going back to the pen goes, I'm in line with that.

[Nick]

I don't follow. Loria gave them all overly generous guarantees. I don't think the fact that he sold the team and was no longer responsible for paying them is relevant.

He backloaded the contracts. Especially Stanton and Chen's Contracts. For example, Stantons Contract was 13 years $325 million. The 3 years that Jeff Loria paid for that contract were 3 years $30 million. Stanton makes $25 million this year. Chen's was a 5 year $80 million contract. Loria paid for 2 years $15 million total, 3 years $65 million left on the contract after he left. This was all very calculated.