2025 Game Thread

[Namaste]

Ryan Weathers leaves the game with a forearm strain. Perfect.

[Nick]

Weathers out 4-6 weeks.

Of the 258 front office people hired can we get one of them to figure out why our pitchers can't stay healthy?

[Nick]

Our Bullpen looks disastrous.

But don't worry guys Janson's Junk is going to be ok!

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Nobody can turn a pitching surplus with an average major league roster and bad farm system into an all around terrible major league roster with no pitching surplus and a mediocre farm system quite like boy genius Peter bendix and the worst owner in baseball Bruce Sherman

[Todd]

Nobody can turn a pitching surplus with an average major league roster and bad farm system into an all around terrible major league roster with no pitching surplus and a mediocre farm system quite like boy genius Peter bendix and the worst owner in baseball Bruce Sherman

The MLB roster was not average. It was literally one of the worst offenses in the game by almost every measure.

I find your love of Kim Ng and hatred of Bendix to be quite humorous.

[fish16]

The MLB roster was not average. It was literally one of the worst offenses in the game by almost every measure.

I find your love of Kim Ng and hatred of Bendix to be quite humorous.

Hatred of bendix does not equal love of ng. The roster was average. They were a playoff team that, yes, played above its expected record, but they still had great pitching and back end of the bullpen that year with a bad lineup that turned to below average once they got burger and bell. They continued to trot out Jacob stallings and Joey Wendle for an entire year instead of admitting a bad decision and making a move for a catcher or trying the guy hitting .400 for 4 months in aaa in Edwards.

regardless of whether you think they were average or below average and lucky, this is significantly worse

[Nick]

Crazy to say this, but it feels like the lowest point for the franchise. For a franchise that's had low after low too. I have almost 0 excitement for the season. Sandy vs. Skenes will be awesome, but beyond that I feel like I'll be struggling to muster excitement. I guess we know this is not the lowest low, that will come when Sandy is dealt.

[fish16]

Crazy to say this, but it feels like the lowest point for the franchise. For a franchise that's had low after low too. I have almost 0 excitement for the season. Sandy vs. Skenes will be awesome, but beyond that I feel like I'll be struggling to muster excitement. I guess we know this is not the lowest low, that will come when Sandy is dealt.

easily. No real hope for the future and no hope for real change. Looking at spotrac, our active roster payroll is only 47 million, and the middle of the pack payroll is 151 million. We are spending 104 million less than just the league average. That is fucking pathetic. And that’s partly why I say the previous roster wasn’t bad. If you spent like an average major league team, that roster easily could have been a legitimately good team. But we are constantly rebuilding in the hopes of an impossible goal- building a team that is dirt cheap and good at pitching and hitting. But it will never work. We are consistently in a cycle of rebuilding, only successfully rebuilding one side of the team, and then repeating.

[Namaste]

The MLB roster was not average. It was literally one of the worst offenses in the game by almost every measure.

I find your love of Kim Ng and hatred of Bendix to be quite humorous.

I lol’d at average major league roster, too!

I also lol’d at Weathers’ injury being Bendix fault.


Anyway, it’s pretty wild that we are going into Opening Day with no Eury, Braxton, Weathers and Jesus Sanchez. I’m totally expecting Xavier Edwards to break his leg in the next 5 days. God hates the Marlins.

[fish16]

I lol’d at average major league roster, too!

I also lol’d at Weathers’ injury being Bendix fault.


Anyway, it’s pretty wild that we are going into Opening Day with no Eury, Braxton, Weathers and Jesus Sanchez. I’m totally expecting Xavier Edwards to break his leg in the next 5 days. God hates the Marlins.

They made the playoffs. This whole fucking retrospective you do to act as if they were the bad news bears making the playoffs is absurd. Were they a legitimately contender? No. They were lucky. But this idea that they were terrible is just absurd. They had a below average lineup by the end of the year and a fucking great rotation and a good bullpen. They were average. Their rotation was sandy, luzardo, eury, and Braxton Garrett with a rotating cast of characters in the 5th spot. That’s as good as you will find in the league. Scott and nardi were great that year, and they had other good pieces in the bullpen. All with a payroll that was less than half of the fucking league average. There is no scenario in which a legitimate major league organization needed to blow that team to pieces as opposed to rebuilding the farm on the fly and spending some fucking money.

This shit where you act as if they were a 100 loss team because you’re an absurd homer who can’t acknowledge the reality of how shitty this franchise is and somehow think it makes me a bad fan because I do is just dumb.

i also didn’t blame bendix for weathers. Literally didn’t even say weathers name in my post. You’re just making shit up. I blamed him for doing exactly what he has done- traded an entire bottom 5 payroll playoff team with a bad farm system away in exchange for a truly awful major league team with a mediocre farm system. It’s exactly what he’s done in the year + he’s been here. No matter how much you want to deflect and be a ridiculous homer. That’s exactly what he has done.

also, god doesn’t hate the marlins, every team has injuries. Teams that spend more than 47 fucking million on their active roster or whatever the number is can sustain them. Those that don’t have Janson junk or whatever the fuck the dudes name is in the opening day rotation

[Namaste]

They made the playoffs. This whole fucking retrospective you do to act as if they were the bad news bears making the playoffs is absurd. Were they a legitimately contender? No. They were lucky. But this idea that they were terrible is just absurd. They had a below average lineup by the end of the year and a fucking great rotation and a good bullpen. They were average. Their rotation was sandy, luzardo, eury, and Braxton Garrett with a rotating cast of characters in the 5th spot. That’s as good as you will find in the league. Scott and nardi were great that year, and they had other good pieces in the bullpen. All with a payroll that was less than half of the fucking league average. There is no scenario in which a legitimate major league organization needed to blow that team to pieces as opposed to rebuilding the farm on the fly and spending some fucking money.

This shit where you act as if they were a 100 loss team because you’re an absurd homer who can’t acknowledge the reality of how shitty this franchise is and somehow think it makes me a bad fan because I do is just dumb.

i also didn’t blame bendix for weathers. Literally didn’t even say weathers name in my post. You’re just making shit up. I blamed him for doing exactly what he has done- traded an entire bottom 5 payroll playoff team with a bad farm system away in exchange for a truly awful major league team with a mediocre farm system. It’s exactly what he’s done in the year + he’s been here. No matter how much you want to deflect and be a ridiculous homer. That’s exactly what he has done.

also, god doesn’t hate the marlins, every team has injuries. Teams that spend more than 47 fucking million on their active roster or whatever the number is can sustain them. Those that don’t have Janson junk or whatever the fuck the dudes name is in the opening day rotation

When it’s convenient for you, the Marlins making the playoffs in 2023 was a total mirage that happened because of luck in one run games.

In this case, it’s convenient for you to point out that they made the playoffs to bolster this ridiculous claim that they had a good roster.

Your sauce. It’s weak.

[fish16]

When it’s convenient for you, the Marlins making the playoffs in 2023 was a total mirage that happened because of luck in one run games.

In this case, it’s convenient for you to point out that they made the playoffs to bolster this ridiculous claim that they had a good roster.

Your sauce. It’s weak.

It was a mirage, they weren’t a legitimate contender. That doesn’t make the roster bad, especially
given their payroll relative to the average team in baseball. They still made the playoffs, had a great rotation all under the age of 25 except for sandy who was 27. They had glaring holes at 3-4 lineup spots. They had a core you could build around if the owner wanted to be even remotely interested in spending at a league average level. Instead he blew up the team because he is poor and wants to serve you chicken shit and gaslight you yet again into thinking that this rebuild, unlike the last 6, will be the one that works out. So you’ll watch this shit product that loses 100 games for the next 2 years and talk yourself into the latest group of prospects.

the alternative was spend like a major league organization and add legitimate lineup pieces to the great pitching and younger core of arraez, jazz, Sanchez, burger, and the couple other solid veterans they had. That year, their opening day payroll was 91 million. 15th in the league was the cardinals at 175 million. What do you think is fucking easier, spending like a major league average organization and adding 84 million to an existing team that just made the playoffs with a great young rotation, or blowing it up completely and continuously trying to compete on a payroll below 70 million? If the latter is remotely acceptable to you, you’re the problem. That’s the entire point- not that he blew up a world
series contender. It’s that instead of behaving like a major league owner, we have another embarrassing rebuild with a payroll below 50 million on opening day active roster players, and homers like you will yet again talk yourself into the latest names that should be impacting this team in just 2 more years!!!

[Todd]

You ridiculously overrate the players the Marlins had. They weren't a core. Heck in Burgers case they weren't even young(dude turns 29 in like a week).

[fish16]

You ridiculously overrate the players the Marlins had. They weren't a core. Heck in Burgers case they weren't even young(dude turns 29 in like a week).

That is absolutely a core. Sandy, luzardo, eury, Scott, Garrett, arraez, jazz, burger, and Sanchez is absolutely a starting point that you can build off of that doesn’t need to be completely torn down to the studs. That is what a core looks like when you are in the bottom of the league in payroll. Literally all that needed to be done was spend like an actual major league organization to help the lineup. Instead, the focus was always on taking from one strength to address another weakness in a trade. Never was it even remotely considered a possibility that they could add 1 impact bat via free agency, let alone the 2-3 they needed. You can win with those pieces as a starting block, but you can’t win anything without spending the money necessary to do so. Whether that’s with that group of players or the future group of players in 3 years after we lose 100 games for the next few seasons

stripping it down for parts to save the owner money also doesn’t make the team better. It saves the owner from spending money. They have spent I think less than $10 million in free agency over the last two full offseason. They are blowing smoke uo every fans ass when they sit there with a straight face and tell you that they are better long term from all of those guys being gone.

[fish16]

the hits just keep on coming. mlb officially took two inches off xavier edwards (height) and officially listed him at 5'8, down from 5'10.