July 2021 Game Thread

[Namaste]

We have 7 guys in MLB Pipeline’s new Top 100 prospects (only the Marlins have that many in the Top 100).

But we don’t have anyone in the Top 25.

[Nick]

We have 7 guys in MLB Pipeline’s new Top 100 prospects (only the Marlins have that many in the Top 100).

But we don’t have anyone in the Top 25.

And Eury Perez is not one of those 7 and it seems like only a matter of time for him.

[lou]

We have 7 guys in MLB Pipeline’s new Top 100 prospects (only the Marlins have that many in the Top 100).

But we don’t have anyone in the Top 25.

I only see six, did they re-update it? (Watson, Cabrera, Meyer, Sixto, Bleday, Eder) https://www.mlb.com/prospects

Also I'd frame this they have 3 of top 31!

That's pretty good with Rogers and Jazz having positive rookie years, and Sanchez may also be positive with a good last month.

[Nick]

I only see six, did they re-update it? (Watson, Cabrera, Meyer, Sixto, Bleday, Eder) https://www.mlb.com/prospects

Also I'd frame this they have 3 of top 31!

That's pretty good with Rogers and Jazz having positive rookie years, and Sanchez may also be positive with a good last month.

MLB Pipeline's complete Top 10:

SS Khalil Watson: Marlins No. 1, No. 28 overall

RHP Edward Cabrera: Marlins No. 2, No. 30 overall

RHP Max Meyer: Marlins No. 3, No. 31 overall

RHP Sixto Sanchez: Marlins No. 4, No. 45 overall

OF JJ Bleday: Marlins No. 5, No. 77 overall

LHP Jake Eder: Marlins No. 6, No. 82 overall

OF Jesus Sanchez: Marlins No. 7, No. 91 overall

RHP Eury Perez: Marlins No. 8

C Joe Mack: Marlins No. 9

LHP Dax Fulton: Marlins No. 10

My thoughts: Replace Mack with Burdick. I'd have Bleday a little lower. I wouldn't immediately put Watson at #1. Jose Salas probably needs to be on there, although it'd be tough to take out Fulton. Depending on how he does at Beloit, I could have Perez as high as #1 by the end of the year.

[Lee Stone]

Trade values of Marlins players, as computed by the Baseball Trade Values website, yields some interesting insights. The top guys are T Rogers at $88M, Lopez at 87.2, and Alcantara at $61.9. The projections are based on age, performance, and contract/years of control. Interestingly, S Sanchez still holds a value or $56M. Others: Jazz $47.1; Meyer 29.3; Luzardo $23; Eder $14; Elieser $12.7; E Cabrera $12.1; Perez 10.3. No one will agree with all of that, or even most of it maybe, but it's interesting nonetheless.

[lou]

MLB Pipeline's complete Top 10:



My thoughts: Replace Mack with Burdick. I'd have Bleday a little lower. I wouldn't immediately put Watson at #1. Jose Salas probably needs to be on there, although it'd be tough to take out Fulton. Depending on how he does at Beloit, I could have Perez as high as #1 by the end of the year.

Thanks

Perez is too young to touch the top 4 there IMO, but you can make an argument starting at 5 for sure. Another 100+ innings and the sky could be the limit

[Nick]

Thanks

Perez is too young to touch the top 4 there IMO, but you can make an argument starting at 5 for sure. Another 100+ innings and the sky could be the limit

I mean, the guy they have as our 1 is also 18.

[lou]

Trade values of Marlins players, as computed by the Baseball Trade Values website, yields some interesting insights. The top guys are T Rogers at $88M, Lopez at 87.2, and Alcantara at $61.9. The projections are based on age, performance, and contract/years of control. Interestingly, S Sanchez still holds a value or $56M. Others: Jazz $47.1; Meyer 29.3; Luzardo $23; Eder $14; Elieser $12.7; E Cabrera $12.1; Perez 10.3. No one will agree with all of that, or even most of it maybe, but it's interesting nonetheless.

I think it's close. I think it's something like this:

Tier I - Rogers
Tier II - Sandy, Pablo
Tier III - Jazz, Sixto, Cabrera, Meyer
Tier IV - Watson, Bleday, Anderson
Tier V - Sanchez, Luzardo, Eder, Perez, Hernandez
Tier VI - Thompson, Rojas, Bender, Floro, clump of projectable prospects top 8-15 range - Mack, Fulton, Burdick, L. Diaz, Salas, etc. (no order here), Cooper, dare I say the new and improved .775+ OPS Brinson for 3 years of control here
Tier VII - Minimal and throw-in value. Maybe I missed someone.

Plenty of arm talent here for a longterm rotation right now, as this doesn't even include guys like Poteet, Neidert, Garrett, etc. who could turn themselves into something, or the next wave of prospects like McAmbley, and longterm bets with Fulton, Perez, etc. If those guys are your 9-11 SP next year, that's pretty damn good.

Time to trade the underlines

[lou]

I mean, the guy they have as our 1 is also 18.

A lot more scouting pedigree, as well as safety in bats moving levels. I think I'd put him ahead of Sanchez today (prolific SP versus corner bashing OF, you go with the pitcher), but I think he needs more time in the system to move up and see where the growth spurt lands. But what another scouting win for them if they plucked Eury and Eder for cheap? Eventually they'll have to have this luck with a bat somewhere?

[Nick]

A lot more scouting pedigree, as well as safety in bats moving levels. I think I'd put him ahead of Sanchez today (prolific SP versus corner bashing OF, you go with the pitcher), but I think he needs more time in the system to move up and see where the growth spurt lands. But what another scouting win for them if they plucked Eury and Eder for cheap? Eventually they'll have to have this luck with a bat somewhere?

And just to be clear, I think 7 or 8 is appropriate at this moment. I’m just saying, I think if he starts dominating high A as well as a teenager you have to start viewing him as one of our best prospects if not the best.

[Nick]

Another name to watch by the end of the year, possible Top 10 candidate is Kyle Nicolas. They've clearly corrected something, because he's been a completely different pitcher at AA. Actually both him and MD Johnson known for big arms, but subpar control, both looking great after they moved up a level. Somebody who's working with pitchers in the minor leagues for us is doing something right. In fact I think Eder was known subpar command in college as well. Which makes me more baffled as to why we're keeping Luzardo up at the big leagues. Get him down in the minors and get him the Johnson/Nicolas/Eder treatment.

[Namaste]

I know I’m in the minority but I’m not at all comfortable being in what, year 4 of the “build”, and we don’t have a Top 25 prospect.

[lou]

I know I’m in the minority but I’m not at all comfortable being in what, year 4 of the “build”, and we don’t have a Top 25 prospect.

It's semantics as we are then thrilled to have 3 of top 31. As well as Rogers (big time) and Jazz look like keepers, and Sandy/Pablo/Anderson are good long-term pieces. Remember, their highest ranked pitching prospects at all times during this process are Sixto, Meyer, and Cabrera. Rogers, Sandy, and Pablo never got to the top 30s I don't believe. The best guys aren't even here yet.

They are in good shape with high end longterm talent. They just need 3 bats ASAP.

[Nick]

I know I’m in the minority but I’m not at all comfortable being in what, year 4 of the “build”, and we don’t have a Top 25 prospect.

Look at a different list and we will. I’d much rather have 7 or 8 top 100s and no top 25 than 2 top 25s but no top 100s after.

[Namaste]

Jesus Sanchez just hit a ball harder (for an out) than all 5 batted balls by the Reds in the bottom of the 1st