April 2021 game thread

[rmc523]

we didn't play yesterday....this is game 2

Whoops, I was thinking about the STL game before it.

[Maddawg]

Whoops, I was thinking about the STL game before it.

It happens to all of us !!!

[Maddawg]

Can Trevor Rodgers be a ROY candidate?

[Nick]

Ya gotta be excited about Rogers. A year ago I think we were just hoping one of Garrett or Rogers would turn into a nice 4 or 5 to complement our power right-handed arms and right now I’m looking at him and seeing potential ace stuff. I was drooling over Asa Lacy last year wanting us to draft him. Lacy wasn’t consistently throwing 97-98 like Rogers is now. Is there a harder throwing lefty starter in the majors right now?

[fish16]

Ya gotta be excited about Rogers. A year ago I think we were just hoping one of Garrett or Rogers would turn into a nice 4 or 5 to complement our power right-handed arms and right now I’m looking at him and seeing potential ace stuff. I was drooling over Asa Lacy last year wanting us to draft him. Lacy wasn’t consistently throwing 97-98 like Rogers is now. Is there a harder throwing lefty starter in the majors right now?

Ya between Sandy, Rogers, Pablo, and Sixto we have one of the best rotations in baseball, period. Throw in a number 3 overall pick who isn't far away and then another top 100 guy like Edward Cabrera if he can ever get healthy and you have a dominant, young, cost controlled rotation for years to come. If these bats in the system pan out in the next 2-3 years you have a legitimate window for contention.

[Nick]

Ya between Sandy, Rogers, Pablo, and Sixto we have one of the best rotations in baseball, period. Throw in a number 3 overall pick who isn't far away and then another top 100 guy like Edward Cabrera if he can ever get healthy and you have a dominant, young, cost controlled rotation for years to come. If these bats in the system pan out in the next 2-3 years you have a legitimate window for contention.

And Max Meyer, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if we see him before Cabrera.

I'd really love to see Meyer and Cabrera ML ready by August. Have them establish themselves as Major League arms, all of a sudden you could have 6 pitchers with huge trade value and then see what the trade market is like in the offseason to really bolster the offense and pen.

[fish16]

nothing like a rain delay 9 pitches into a game

[Maddawg]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/...sion-deal.html

Here are the parameters of the TV deal:

Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald now reports it’s a seven-year deal that pays just over $50MM annually.

$50 ? Isn't that the deal that Loria had negotiated & left on the table for them to sign? If that's true they just passed on $150 million in revenue they could have had.....they bet on getting $60-65 million a year, but didn't get it, but passed on $150 million....

[Madman81]

it's almost like there was a global pandemic or something

[rmc523]

nothing like a rain delay 9 pitches into a game

Yeah, there's no reason they should've started that game.

[rmc523]

$50 ? Isn't that the deal that Loria had negotiated & left on the table for them to sign? If that's true they just passed on $150 million in revenue they could have had.....they bet on getting $60-65 million a year, but didn't get it, but passed on $150 million....

I don't understand your point?

1) 50x7=350M, and it's a bit over that. And, the previous deal expired after last season regardless. So I'm not sure where "passed on 150M" comes from. There might've been a slight rework of the last few seasons, but I doubt it'd be anywhere near an additional 150M the last 3 seasons; if anything it would've stair stepped......AND, a rework of those 3 seasons likely would've resulted in LESS for each year of the remainder of the deal. (i.e. more money up front = less later).

2) Yes, they expected more, but obviously a pandemic affected revenues of all facets of the economy. Regardless, it sounds like they slightly exceeded that deal anyway.

3) We don't know the parameters of the Loria/Samson deal - he could've been making up the 50M per year, it could've been 50M in the last year of it, it could've been 50M/year for 50 years which would again be woefully undervalued at the end like the previous deal we had. I'm skeptical of 100% believing what Samson says.

And, perhaps the most important one:

4) There's a high possibility/likelihood of the Rays moving in a few years - their lease at the Trop expires after the 2027 season, which wow look at that - is exactly when this new 7-year TV deal ends. If/when the Rays move, that gives the Marlins sole control of basically the entire state (not sure if any parts of northern FL fall under Braves territory) for baseball TV rights. This puts the Marlins in a great position to get an even bigger deal then.

[fish16]

leadoff double stranded. looking at numbers from the early season and the entire lineup isn't struggling, it's really just Anderson and cooper and its holding us back significantly.

[Namaste]

When do the Marlins come to terms with the fact that Acuna starting off at 1B is better then him starting at 2B, 3B or hitting a HR?

[Namaste]

leadoff double stranded. looking at numbers from the early season and the entire lineup isn't struggling, it's really just Anderson and cooper and its holding us back significantly.

As mentioned on the broadcast.....Anderson is just struggling with luck. He’s hitting the ball well.

[Nick]

Marlins have scored 3 runs in Sandy’s 3 starts so far.