2019-2020 Offseason Discussion

[fish16]

This shit also would happen when it seems like all pro teams down here are seemingly heading in the right direction after all but the heat have been borderline incompetent for 15+ years. dolphins finally have a qb, coach who can get more out of his players than the sum of the parts, and an actual smart well thought out team building plan. The marlins we have discussed ad nauseum, the heat seemed to finally be building something since their post lebron mediocrity run plus a legit shot at a superstar like giannis next offseason, and the panthers (ya im a panthers season ticket holder because they are close to work and the team seemed good) at least have a good nucleus of young talent if they could just get some defense. And of course this happens. On the bright side we do have some good years to come once this is in the rear view mirror.

[Todd]

Wonder if there is any thought about trying a Willingham type experiment with say a Misner or Burdick? They are in a group of positions where there is a lot in the system while catcher is barren top to bottom.

[Nick]

Wonder if there is any thought about trying a Willingham type experiment with say a Misner or Burdick? They are in a group of positions where there is a lot in the system while catcher is barren top to bottom.

Misner is left-handed.

[Lee Stone]

A spring training extension featuring nothing but intrasquad games would be wonderful to watch. I hope they are televised.

[fish16]

Misner is left-handed.

random but why are there no left handed SS's, 3b, and C's? Im sure there is a reason

[Nick]

random but why are there no left handed SS's, 3b, and C's? Im sure there is a reason

The answer for infielders is pretty easy. The right-handed throw to first base is just easier. I've never understood why there aren't left-handed catchers though.

[Namaste]

Dan Straily is the Opening Day started for the Lotte Giants.


ESPN is airing one KBO game a day, 6 days a week

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The Lotte Giants were the worst team in the league last year.

[Todd]

The answer for infielders is pretty easy. The right-handed throw to first base is just easier. I've never understood why there aren't left-handed catchers though.

I have always read it is because they would constantly be throwing across the batter.

RH catchers have to do it with LH hitters but they are not as common.

FWIW I thought Misner threw right.

Burdick is probably the better option regardless. He is shorter and more compact. He has a ++ arm but he is not as good defensively in the OF.

[Nick]

RH catchers have to do it with LH hitters but they are not as common.

While that's certainly true in youth baseball. In the majors, the percentage of left-handed batters has got to be close to 50%. It's surprising no one has ever tried it.

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Also, that Catcher experiment greatly hindered Willingham's career. His bat was major league ready about 2 years before he was actually called up. Also, might've shortened his career on the backside. I'm not in any hurry to try that again.

[Todd]

Eh, putting him at C was actually an attempt to get him to the majors, not the opposite. It was the only position he wasn't really blocked at.

[Nick]

Eh, putting him at C was actually an attempt to get him to the majors, not the opposite. It was the only position he wasn't really blocked at.

Your memory is very different than mine on this subject. Hee-Seop Choi and a pushing 40 Jeff Conine were holding down 1B and LF in 2004, which are the positions Willingham eventually ended up playing. His numbers at AA in 2004 were just as good as Cabrera's were in 2003 when he was called up. They were willing to call up a 20-year old Cabrera the previous year, but not a 25-year old Willingham the year after. Willingham put up an average OPS of 1.040 in the minors between 2003 and 2005, and that resulted in a grand total of 48 Major League ABs during that time period. If Willingham gets a true shot in 2004 maybe we don't need to hand out a huge contract to Carlos Delgado, and could've used that money elsewhere.

[tjfla]

U can get a 21/22 year C very easy this year if wanted.

Patrick Bailey
Austin Wells
Dillon Dingler
Mike Rothenberg
Casey Opitz
Shane McGuire
Brady Smith

and about 8 HS C

Dont forget they like Banfield ALOT as a Defensive C and could be a ML Backup right now. Fortes is also in the system-u will have those guys in AA/Hi A and they got 3 young C

Gonna be pretty interesting to see how Miami plays this draft especially if its 10 Rds.Take all College Guys who are 21/22 is the way I would go-dont take any hard sign HS guy unless u agree to deals already

[Todd]

See I would exclusively take 10 high upside HS players. 5 arms and 5 prep players.

Seems like we haven't had a high impact prep player make it from the system in quite some time.

[emkayseven]

Your memory is very different than mine on this subject. Hee-Seop Choi and a pushing 40 Jeff Conine were holding down 1B and LF in 2004, which are the positions Willingham eventually ended up playing. His numbers at AA in 2004 were just as good as Cabrera's were in 2003 when he was called up. They were willing to call up a 20-year old Cabrera the previous year, but not a 25-year old Willingham the year after. Willingham put up an average OPS of 1.040 in the minors between 2003 and 2005, and that resulted in a grand total of 48 Major League ABs during that time period. If Willingham gets a true shot in 2004 maybe we don't need to hand out a huge contract to Carlos Delgado, and could've used that money elsewhere.

We didn't really pay Delgado anything tho

[Nick]

We didn't really pay Delgado anything tho

We could've not paid someone else, though. lol

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It does blow my mind that Loria kept pulling that move of signing these big contracts and paying them almost nothing the first year or couple of years and then trading them away before he had to spend any real money. The MLB is culpable for the damages done to this franchise by allowing his shady practices.