2018 Spring Training

[Nick]

Maybin is 30 and Moises is still a half a year shy of 30. Maybin signed for 3.25M. Moises has hit circa .300 with a .360 OBP the last few years, incl at AAA. Even stole 18 bags last season. Moises is also having a great spring. For some reason, p;ayers in the Marlins' own system are minimized by the organization. Braxton Lee and Brinson play a much better CF than Maybin.

If Brinson spends the entire year with the big league club. You're absolutely right the Maybin signing is a waste. Just acknowledge that the service time thing is a factor, and if we want to get an extra year of control out of Brinson he'll have to spend some time in AAA, it's just the way it is. Which is why Maybin is here. I like Braxton Lee, he needs to do what he did last year at the AAA level and he'll be up, but not until then.

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Galloway AB R H HR RBI SB AVG OBP OPS
2018 Spring Training Stats 29 4 11 0 2 4 .379 .400 .917

If Galloway stays healthy this year he'll get a shot at being a 4th OF in the majors. No doubt in my mind. He's not more than that though. If ST stats were the be-all-end-all Bour would be starting the year in Jupiter, but they're not and we know that Bour will be fine, because we've seen him play for 3 years.

[Lee Stone]

[QUOTE we know that Bour will be fine, because we've seen him play for 3 years.[/QUOTE]

Bour will have a big year if he stays healthy. His swing just keeps improving.

[fish16]

I didnt even catch Wittgren being sent down this morning. I have to assume thats a quick little way to let him rehab a little more before we call him up after a week or so?

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I think Despaigne has essentially locked up a rotation spot given our options so it looks like we need 2 more guys (with the hope that Straily only misses his first start but can pitch a few days later so that he isnt technically out of the rotation at any point). I think Nicolino gets another spot solely as a last ditch effort to give him a chance because we have a lack of options and then im guessing we claim someone after teams set their 25 man. I wish there was an article showing potential guys who are out of options who dont have a roster spot locked up to see some possibilities.

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If Brinson spends the entire year with the big league club. You're absolutely right the Maybin signing is a waste. Just acknowledge that the service time thing is a factor, and if we want to get an extra year of control out of Brinson he'll have to spend some time in AAA, it's just the way it is. Which is why Maybin is here. I like Braxton Lee, he needs to do what he did last year at the AAA level and he'll be up, but not until then.

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If Galloway stays healthy this year he'll get a shot at being a 4th OF in the majors. No doubt in my mind. He's not more than that though. If ST stats were the be-all-end-all Bour would be starting the year in Jupiter, but they're not and we know that Bour will be fine, because we've seen him play for 3 years.

I think Galloway is more of a 5th OF type who comes up every once and a while to be a bench OF just for injuries but honestly, given our team this year and how long he's been in the system, even with him having no real major league future its gonna be a really cool story to see him making his major league debut. Good story of perseverance and a good guy to keep around young players as im assuming he's a hard worker to struggle for so long and then turn a corner after literally 10 years in the system.

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So what's the rotation for each level to start the year? And where will the hitting prospects start?

AAA- Peters, Conley, Alcantara, Gallen, Richards? Maybe Caleb Smith somewhere in there?
Sierra here or in Jax? Braxton Lee,

AA- Neidert, Jarlin, Merandy, Yamamoto, Pablo Lopez?
Monte and Isan Diaz as hitters?
A+- Kolek, Guzman, ???
Nelson and Brian Miller and Dunand?
Am i missing people? Even if i am, that is going to be exciting as hell to track actual talent night in and night out as opposed to the last few years watching organizational fillers taking up the majority of nights when tracking the minors, with pitching especially.

[lou]

Those AAA/AA rotations seem about right. We joke about him, but Meyer should probably be in AA too. But there is no harm moving him up when someone is promoted. They are going to have to make RP eventually.

The lower minors is also interesting - Guzman, Rogers, Garret, E. Cabrera, Torress, Devers

[Lee Stone]

Ben Meyer is the big missing name. He was the best of all the farmhands in 2017; what could there possibly be to joke about?

If team control is the overriding factor, Brinson and Anderson should be in AAA until May. That would allow Dietrich to play 3B, where he is the best fit.

Brian Miller seems like an OF prospect to watch. Max Duval is listed for mound duty today. After converting from OF to P a couple years ago, he fared well in a half dozen Greensboro starts last year. You never know.

[lou]

I opened that door boys. My bad

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I think they want Dietrich in the OF because he packed on weight and outgrew 3B.

Regardless, service time with Brinson still controls.

Team Shuck or Galloway.

[Lee Stone]

I opened that door boys. My bad

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I think they want Dietrich in the OF because he packed on weight and outgrew 3B.

Regardless, service time with Brinson still controls.

Team Shuck or Galloway.

How is Anderson's situation any different than Brinson's?

[Nick]

I opened that door boys. My bad

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I think they want Dietrich in the OF because he packed on weight and outgrew 3B.

Really? I've seen him a couple of times this spring. He didn't seem that much bigger.

[Lee Stone]

Really? I've seen him a couple of times this spring. He didn't seem that much bigger.

He looks the same to me as well. He's always spent lots of time in the weight room. Looks very confident at the plate - though that has never been an issue with DD.

[lou]

Really? I've seen him a couple of times this spring. He didn't seem that much bigger.

Mattingly said something like that.

I'd also play him everywhere - 2B, 3B, 1B, LF, RF. Audition him everywhere to sell as a premium bench guy/poor man's Marwin in July.

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How is Anderson's situation any different than Brinson's?

Regarding service time, it's not.

Regarding quality of prospect, Brinson is in another class as a unanimous top 15-30 prospect in baseball across all major scouting services (BA, BP, Law/ESPN, FG, Sickels, etc.). Anderson made one top 100 list- fangraphs in the 80s. Projecting them 7 years from now, you expect Brinson is a star and Anderson an ordinary regular. They should absolutely keep them both down in case Anderson is a late bloomer and starts dropping 3-4 WAR seasons in a few years, but practically, you can probably live with him not having a 7th year based on his ceiling. That's of course very subjective.

Brinson up boils my blood. So does Alcantara as basically a unanimous top 60-90 prospect. Guys like Anderson, Sierra (also made 1 top 100 list), Peters (none), Garcia (has 1 year of service time, but they can deflect a year), etc., I can live with them up even if not ideal.

[Lee Stone]

Joe Frisaro

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Third point today: I like Brinson leading off. Leading off with HR passes the eye test, as well. Also liked Lewis noting he got a little out of his approach twice with runners on third and grounding to left side. He is a quick study, hard worker. Will be a ROY candidate.

Just curious. Does anyone agree with this Frisaro analysis? I don't see Brinson walking much or hitting for a high average either. He's 0 for the spring in SB attempts - reportedly because of a slow first few steps. I see him settling in as maybe a six hitter as a rookie

[Nick]

My ideal lineup with Brinson and Anderson up.

Realmuto
Dietrich
Brinson
Bour
Castro
Anderson
Van Slyke/Cooper/Maybin
Rojas/Riddle

[Lee Stone]

My ideal lineup with Brinson and Anderson up.

Realmuto
Dietrich
Brinson
Bour
Castro
Anderson
Van Slyke/Cooper/Maybin
Rojas/Riddle

That seems close. Notably, you have moved Castro from three to five. I might even drop him to sixth in a flip with Anderson. To be honest, I might even put Anderson third and drop Brinson down to fifth. Statistically speaking, the 2016 Maybin is the best lead off man. Then again, the 2017 Maybin shouldn't play at all.

[fish16]

Id go with

Brinson (just to get as many ab's as possible if he's gonna be up all year)
Dietrich
Realmuto
Bour
Anderson
Castro
Cooper
Rojas

[Nick]

Poor Zac Gallen. I have to wonder why they're starting him this late in Spring Training against major league hitters after he's already struggled.