2018 Spring Training

[Nick]

It's also about increasing Dietrich's trade value, which showing he can play the OF does, and also keeping him in the lineup every day does that as well. He's a valuable piece, and honestly I think he'll be less of a defensive liability in LF than he is at 2nd Base. I think Dietrich's ideal spot is 3B, but right now if he's going to stay in the league for years to come he's got to be able to play all of them adequately. I agree about Maybin being brought in, but if bringing him in allows Brinson to sit in AAA for a month so we get that extra year of control then he'll have done his job. I highly doubt Maybin sticks with the team the entire year.

[fish16]

Really encouraging spring from so many prospects. Sierra has hit very well but still isnt ready if you look at his K/bb ratio but still encouraging nonetheless.. Brinson has been spectacular but his k/bb ratio hasnt been good either so they could use that as an excuse to keep him down. Alcantara has been really damn good. Pablo lopez is apparently impressing and if you go look at his minor league numbers he's always been a very consistent guy for what he does aside from his time in the california league (equivalent to the FSL A+ ball league) which is known for being a hitters paradise that inflates pitching stats. IF what the beat guys were saying today was correct that he touches 96 and has the control he's shown in the minors he's another legit starting pitching prospect.

Brian anderson started slow but he has been really good and has shown really solid plate discipline. Elieser Hernandez looks like a potential rotation arm possibly or at the very least will make the roster as a bullpen arm which is all you can ask from a rule 5 guy.

[Lee Stone]

[QUOTE=fish16;388969] Alcantara has been really damn good.

Alcantara has been more lucky than good. He's been hit very hard and needs a year of work in the minors.

[fish16]

[QUOTE=Lee Stone;388975]

Alcantara has been really damn good.

Alcantara has been more lucky than good. He's been hit very hard and needs a year of work in the minors.

Dont know how lucky he has been but just 2 walks and 4 hits in 8 innings is really good to see.

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PAblo Lopez 4.1 IP, 8 K's, 1 Walk, 2 hits, no runs.
Elieser Hernandez 7 IP, 7 k's, 0 bb's, 7 hits, 3 runs.
Caleb Smith 4 IP, 0 runs, 4 k's, 1 hit, 2 walks. I think hes guaranteed a rotation spot.
Straily weirdly hasnt pitched as much but 4 ip, no runs, 4 k's, 3 hits, no walks
urena 4 IP, 4 k's, 2 hits, 2 walks.


All really good signs on top of many others who have pitched really well this spring.

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Our veteran hitters on the other hand have been slightly cold to start.

[Lee Stone]

The bad news: Marlins spring stats. Last in R and HR and near worst in BA. The good news: Still have a winning record!

[lou]

The bad news: Marlins spring stats. Last in R and HR and near worst in BA. The good news: Still have a winning record!

Did you get really excited that one year Nunez hit 12 HR in spring training or whatever?

Not trying to be an asshole here. It's fun you are really into spring training and 27 year old minor league pitcher stats, but practically, you do know that they are relatively meaningless? I just want to understand.

[tjfla]

ST Roster Assignments(Most of these guys will still see action)

The #Marlins today optioned RHP James Needy and C Austin Nola to Triple-A New Orleans, optioned RHP Merandy Gonzalez, RHP Pablo López, and LHP Miguel Del Pozo to Double-A Jacksonville

The #Marlins also reassigned RHP Tyler Cloyd, RHP Zac Gallen, RHP Trevor Richards, RHP Nick Neidert, RHP Ben Meyer, C Rodrigo Vigil, INF Johnny Giavotella, INF Jonathan Rodriguez, and OF Monte Harrison to Minor League

[fish16]

No surprises there. Interested to see where they start a lot of these guys off to begin the year.

[Lee Stone]

Not trying to be an asshole here.[/QUOTE]

It just comes naturally?

[lou]

Not trying to be an asshole here.

It just comes naturally?[/QUOTE]

Nope, that is 100% your choice how you get treated. If you don't want to have a serious dialogue and want to say trolly stuff like Beltre is a better prospect than Alcantara and the Marlins don't need Maybin because they have Galloway, that's fine. You be you, but I genuinely wanted to know why you care so much about a class of stats (age doesn't matter in the minor leagues, spring stats, etc.) that are basically agreed upon to be meaningless by industry professionals much smarter than all of us. Prospect age matters for a level of competition. There have been tons of studies showing an extremely low correlation between spring stats and predicting performance/growth/etc. I appreciate different perspectives, and maybe you have a smart angle here, I don't know. But I'm just not seeing it.

[Lee Stone]

Nope, that is 100% your choice how you get treated.[/QUOTE]

Meaning: I either agree with your point of view or I'm crazy. Not just Andy Beltre, but Richards, Meyer, M Gonzalez, and Pablo Lopez - all sent down today - have all enjoyed more success at getting batters out than Alcantara. I'm supposed to be captivated by the potential that gushes from MLB Pipeline? No thanks. A simple statistical review reveals that Alcantara is fairly easy to hit and walks too many. Furthermore, that trend is difficult to reverse. And yes, I think a lot of Galloway.

[fish16]

Nope, that is 100% your choice how you get treated.

Meaning: I either agree with your point of view or I'm crazy. Not just Andy Beltre, but Richards, Meyer, M Gonzalez, and Pablo Lopez - all sent down today - have all enjoyed more success at getting batters out than Alcantara. I'm supposed to be captivated by the potential that gushes from MLB Pipeline? No thanks. A simple statistical review reveals that Alcantara is fairly easy to hit and walks too many. Furthermore, that trend is difficult to reverse. And yes, I think a lot of Galloway.[/QUOTE]

you really dont get it do you? You really dont understand the difference between a 25 year old in AA vs a 21 year old?

[Lee Stone]

Meaning: I either agree with your point of view or I'm crazy. Not just Andy Beltre, but Richards, Meyer, M Gonzalez, and Pablo Lopez - all sent down today - have all enjoyed more success at getting batters out than Alcantara. I'm supposed to be captivated by the potential that gushes from MLB Pipeline? No thanks. A simple statistical review reveals that Alcantara is fairly easy to hit and walks too many. Furthermore, that trend is difficult to reverse. And yes, I think a lot of Galloway.

you really dont get it do you? You really dont understand the difference between a 25 year old in AA vs a 21 year old?[/QUOTE]

Pablo Lopez is six months younger than Alcantara and put up a 6K per W ratio last season. Alcantara barely manages 2K per W. Lopez strikes me as the much better prospect. As far as age comps go, I'm not a buyer. Carribbean/Latin players generally have lots of extra years on their arms at an early age - baseball is what they do.

[Spork5812]

Did you get really excited that one year Nunez hit 12 HR in spring training or whatever?

Not trying to be an asshole here. It's fun you are really into spring training and 27 year old minor league pitcher stats, but practically, you do know that they are relatively meaningless? I just want to understand.

I remember OMGNunez

[Namaste]

Holy crap I also forgot all about OMG Nunez.

That little back and forth between lou and Lee Stone actually made me laugh but keep the punches above the belt boys; lou is a long time outstanding poster and we don’t want to scare Lee off. It’s nice to have new, diehard Marlins fans around these parts.