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Imagine if we trade Ozuna, Yelich, Realmuto, Stanton and Gordon and don’t get anyones #1 prospect?
That would be impressive.
That would be impressive.
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This is my thinking. When you are trading Yelich or Realmuto, other teams should not be telling us who is off the table. We tell them who we want and then if they don't want to make the deal, move on to someone who will meet our demands...or just hold on to them until a suitable deal is found.Originally posted by Namaste View PostComment
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fish16 is going to tell us not to get tunnel vision on prospect rankingsComment
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Really, there is some truth to that. The rankings aren't everything. But if you are trading someone signed to a contract as good as Yelich, you have to get the perfect deal. There is no reason to settle.Originally posted by Namaste View PostComment
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But my point remains: Launching Ozuna, Yelich, JT, Stanton and Gordon and not getting someone’s #1 would be impressive and not in a good way.Originally posted by fauowls44 View PostComment
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I would love to be able to get Ozzie Albies in a Yelich deal. Him, 2 pitching prospects, and Alex Jackson and id do it.Comment
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There is some truth to not trusting the rankings, but with the deals Miami has made, there is no ambiguity about whether they were able to land those teams' top prospects. With the Yankees, it wasn't even close. With the Cardinals, Alcantara may have as high an upside as their top guys, but anyone who knows anything about that system will tell you there's no way he was their top, or even second best prospect.Originally posted by fauowls44 View PostComment
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That's pretty damn significant.Ken Rosenthal
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#Marlins NOT seeking to attach Prado, Castro or any other high-salaried player to Yelich and/or Realmuto in trade talks, sources tell The Athletic. Financial pressure no longer as severe; payroll currently projects to $96.8M, per Cot’s Baseball Contracts. MIA seeking best talent.Comment
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I just think ATL would want Prado for Markakis. They need 3b help until Riley is ready. Which should be about 2 seasons."You owe it to yourself to find your own unorthodox way of succeeding, or sometimes, just surviving."
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J.T. Realmuto .282/.351/.412Comment
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"Attaching" Castro to a deal would be silly. He's a valuable resource either as a player for the Marlins, or what he could return in a trade. I also don't believe the salary stuff. Sounds like they didn't expect backlash this severe and are trying to put this info out there.Originally posted by fish16 View PostComment
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They're naive if they didn't expect this type of backlash for having another firesale.Originally posted by sports24/7 View PostComment
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That would be a horrible return for Yelich and would totally be settling. So they so no to Acuna, Riley and Albies so we settle for Pache who is redundant in this system and is virtually the only thing there is right now. If they won't give up them they should at least get Swanson. Gohara should not be the headliner for the trade. I know Fish16 loves this trade and it is solid but is no overpay and if that is truly what they want the Braves will be doing cartwheels because they will have stole Yelich. Also not really enamored with any of their catchers and can't see them being more then a stop gap in the majors if they make it that far.Comment
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The bottom line is there's no reason to trade Yelich and Realmuto at this point. They don't "need" to like they did with the other players. Unless they're blown away and get what they are demanding, they shouldn't be moved. There's no reason to accept a lesser deal just to get a deal done (which is the typical Marlins move, so I unfortunately expect it).Originally posted by flamarlins93 View Post
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2750596
Here's a good article from Bleacher Report basically summing up my thoughts. A few highlights.....
First impressions matter, and if Moreno would always be the guy who gave you a drink, Jeter is on his way to always being the guy who traded the MVP…and pushed Mr. Marlin out…and turned Marlins Man into a former season-ticket holder.
He came in as the guy who could save South Florida from Jeffrey Loria and David Samson, who were hugely (and rightly) unpopular as owner and president of the Miami Marlins. Three months later, he's the guy who already has some in the area convinced he's going to be just as bad as they were.
It doesn't matter that in many ways the perception is worse than the reality. The perception matters, and it's bad enough to make you wonder who would ever be a fan of this team. Who would ever buy a ticket?
First impressions matter, and this is the first impression Jeter has left since he and his investment group paid $1.2 billion to take over the Marlins.
"It's because he doesn't know what he's doing," said Jonathan Zaslow, host of the Zaslow, Romberg & Amber morning show on Miami's 790 The Ticket. "It really is that simple. He's a shortstop. No more, no less."
Jeter may well turn the Marlins into a winner before he's done. He may prove to be as successful as an owner as he was as a shortstop. He might build a winning team and rebuild relationships with the community that suffered under Loria and Samson. It's entirely possible the early baseball decisions he oversaw and directed will prove to be the right ones.
But this is where he starts. Unless and until some of those other things come through, this is what Jeter the owner will be
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Images do count, and Jeter should know that as well as anyone. For two decades as the Yankees shortstop, playing in the biggest market and the biggest fishbowl, he carefully preserved his image.
In three months as an owner, he has let that image slip.Comment
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Ya they aren't looking to attach Castro however don't be surprised if he goes with Straily or a RP if its to Milwaukee or another team that needs bothOriginally posted by fish16 View Post
As for Prado its not really "attaching" him to Yelich. Braves NEED a 3B for 2018 and if they get Yelich they do NOT need an OF and we do. I keep hearing they still want 4/5 prospects for Yelich but Atlanta has offered Prado for Markakis to sweeten the deal for us. It does nothing for our payroll in 2018 however saves 15 million or so for 2019
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Still don't get why people havent figured out that the goal is to build a farm system not trade Yelich or JT for 1 guy. They want quantity regardless of position. They would love Acuna but aren't gonna say it's ONLY him or bye like they would to Washington for Robles. Atlanta has tons of other stuff and Gohara,Allard,Bryse Wilson,Atlanta's 2nd Best Position Prospect and more is nice solid offer that gives u even more ML Ready SP depthOriginally posted by flamarlins93 View Post
As for the catchers Cumberland and Herbert are likely ML backups and Alex Jackson its more about his bat them him being a C. The thing u fail to realize is while NONE of them are great but if we got any of them it would give us something at the position to develop. Our minor league C situation is terribleComment
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