Loria Ehe !

[Ramp]

I mean, I hate the guy but he's not all bad

just mostly bad

[emkayseven]

I don't doubt that he wants to win

I just doubt that it's his first priority

[Ramp]

agreed

[Namaste]

What pro sports owner wants to lose ?

[Ramp]

I think Polky was trying to say that Loria actually likes baseball and is a fan

[AdamRavs]

I think Polky was trying to say that Loria actually likes baseball and is a fan

I don't doubt that he is a fan and wants to win. But yes making money is his 1st priority.

[CrimsonCane]

I don't care whether he prioritizes making money (all owners do that and the ones who claim to be all about winning are usually the ones who dont have to worry about losing money). I fault him for being really dumb about how to go about doing that. He doesn't care about the fans, hires the wrong people, and fails at executing any sort of long term strategy.

He is cheap because he can't make money in a smarter way.

[tjfla]

I don't doubt that he wants to win

I just doubt that it's his first priority

#1 is Art
#2 is Money


It's just sad because he has guys around him that if he would listen to he would make cash and have a good team. Instead he tells his guys-I got this to spend find someone for that amount

[Chewford]

#1 is Art
#2 is Money

[emkayseven]

in all fairness though:

we've had 2 championship teams in south Florida and both times attendance was poor until the playoffs rolled around. In 1997 we were 11th in attendance (and obviously only 28 teams back then). In 2003 we were 28th (!). Last year we all know that despite the stadium and the spending spree we didn't sell out a single game, and if you were at opening day you know that there were 100s of open seats. So if you're Loria and you see this, you can either spend a lot of money and make some money, or spend waaaaaaay less money and make a little less money. The ROI on spending money in this market hasn't made sense and that's why we've had 3 owners who haven't done it. If you spend an extra 60 million, you don't make an extra 60 million. It's worth it to him, since money is the priority, to spend significantly less and turn a profit that's only slightly smaller. I totally get it. I really do.

[CrimsonCane]

Except that strategy has diminishing returns. Every time you do that, the return on investment is going to be smaller and smaller because revenue will diminish faster than you can reduce your costs. Its a short term strategy and a bad one.

I also think that Loria needs to realize that good will cant be created over night. Brands are cultivated over years of hard work. All of his efforts have proven to be short lived. You can't win big over time if you have to make sure you break even with every single decision you make.

His style of ownership leaves money on the table every year.

[Erick]

#1 is Art
#2 is Money


It's just sad because he has guys around him that if he would listen to he would make cash and have a good team. Instead he tells his guys-I got this to spend find someone for that amount

Yeah, those guys did great last year...

[Namaste]

MK7, if what you're saying is true, Loria has no business being in the business of owning a professional sports franchise.

[lou]

I also think that Loria needs to realize that good will cant be created over night. Brands are cultivated over years of hard work. All of his efforts have proven to be short lived.

Yep. This is why I am most angry. There should be second generation young Marlins fans now. This is not the case. He has blown a golden opportunity to establish baseball in South Florida and this last offseason set them back years.

[Mainge]

There second generation Marlins fans.